dankula would have been fine if he had broadcast the video on tv

I'd agree with Falko, it doesn't appear that he was charged with 'Hate Crime'

because its not the video that is wrong... its the use of the internet to publish it

fair enough,

But my point was that regardless if its a hate crime, or public electronic communications crime

His statement is what he was punished for, and they're getting him on a technicality

i did not find what the initial charges where, though

I really think that's why they're taking so long to sentence him

also i think incitement to violence is a crime in any western country, even America

Saying "I hate negro's" is protected
Saying "Lets burn all the negro's alive and rape their wamen" is incitement to violence

they got him on a law that can be used against EVERYONE for saying ANYTHING on the internet

They're not sure exactly how to use it punitively.

jayred, that example is basically the german hate speech law 😄

Have there been instances of people being charged solely with this before?

well yes, but thats incitement to violence, its actively trying to use speech to get action against people
as opposed to using speech to challenge/critique an idea

i think so, yes

but in any case, its a ridiculous law the brits used to make an example of him

It's a massive blow to free speech.

The concept, not the right. They don't expressly have the right.

4 blows in one week if you also consider Lauren Southern, Britney Pettibone and that Generation Identity guy, Martin Selner?, being banned from entering UK

the law is so vague that it basically shuts down free speech via the internet in the uk

Yeah, all of that happening at once, it's REALLY kind of 1984esque

i mean... i was not joking when i said that they can convict you for saying that you dont like tea

That does seem pretty outrageous.

yeah, so its basically a law that nullifies the concept of free speech

Its become "You can say what you want as long as we agree"

That's why Free Speech HAS to include hate speech.

Maybe its britains form of 4D chess?

They're doing this to draw massive attention so the laws get removed?

sure... it is outreagous... which makes my suggestion grossly offensive... see the problem? 😉

Oh, yeah. I saw it. I was very offended by your dislike of tea.

I took it

VERY

personally.

Okay: Three things. 1. Define 4D. 2. Define the rules to 4D chess. 3. No.

well Free speech has to include hate speech for it to be free speech

saying "I love people that do nice things for other people" doesn't need protection, its opinions and statements people dislike that need protecting

i personally think that southern is stupid... sellner... well... he is a eu citizen... pettibone - don't know her really...

I think Southern is too enthusiastic for journalism.

but preventing them from entering the country was... highly suspect...

She's a journalist to the extent that she logs the events that she witnesses and partakes in, AKA commits them to an open journal.

anyone who show up in a identity europa shirt in st. pauli is stupid - even if it not for a antifa protest 😄

and 4D chess, playing the people against themselves, use their problem so the extent people think of a good fix so they'll think they brought the idea of a fix, and thus be blameless after you said "You people have a good idea, we'll make it happen"

Making the people like you for fixing the issue and giving the opposition a bad image (removing abuse of power laws after everyone knows they exist)

problem with that is that you first have to implement the law...

The one problem with that

the UK doesn't have a decent party.

basically

1. Punish a person with the law, showing everyone the law is bad
2. say "See, this law is bad, lets remove it"
3. Remove the law and be the hero
4. ???
5. Profit