Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-03-21 21:44:28 UTC  

if you use only that... yes

2018-03-21 21:44:48 UTC  

well, anything right-wing is capitalism
Anything leftwing is socialism/communism
and that leaves centrism

2018-03-21 21:44:51 UTC  

you have to pick and choose from all to get to a good place

2018-03-21 21:44:59 UTC  

thats centrism

2018-03-21 21:46:07 UTC  

you have to pick from that too 😉

2018-03-21 21:46:54 UTC  

but centrism... nah... not really... the right balance is not in the center...

2018-03-21 21:47:05 UTC  

(nitpicking, i know)

2018-03-21 21:47:06 UTC  

it is actually, the absolute center

2018-03-21 21:47:43 UTC  

if you go authoritarian you step on people
if you go too liberal, you leave the floor open to authoritarians to gain power
If you go too left, you get too decentralised and idiots can take over
if you go too right, you gain caste systems

2018-03-21 21:48:12 UTC  

best to say in the center and declare "all have good and bad points, lets pick the best of all"

2018-03-21 21:48:18 UTC  

if you that simple then yeah

2018-03-21 21:48:42 UTC  

well there is no more details to it

if you stray too far in any direction, you gain utopic ideals that wont work due to "humanity"

2018-03-21 21:49:38 UTC  

utopic ideals do not not work because "humanity" but because they are stupid

2018-03-21 21:50:02 UTC  

not really

If everyone does what the utopic ideal needs, you get that version of utopia

2018-03-21 21:50:12 UTC  

you need center right to keep on a steady path and you need center left to optimize that path..

2018-03-21 21:50:37 UTC  

if everyone works their fullest for no "extra benefit" and doesn't complain, communism/socialism works

If everyone works their hardest and accepts not everyone can be at the top, anarcho-capitalism works

2018-03-21 21:50:53 UTC  

too far too each side and the system goes crazy

2018-03-21 21:51:00 UTC  

neither of those are possible

2018-03-21 21:51:08 UTC  

exactly, cuz of humanity

2018-03-21 21:51:23 UTC  

communism is a bullshit idea that hates humans

2018-03-21 21:51:28 UTC  

exactly

2018-03-21 21:51:35 UTC  

but if humans were robots, it would work

2018-03-21 21:51:44 UTC  

hence, humanity making it flawed, not the "ideal" being stupid

2018-03-21 21:51:54 UTC  

the ideal is stupid

2018-03-21 21:52:00 UTC  

^^^

2018-03-21 21:52:08 UTC  

the idea is stupid because humans can never accomplish it

2018-03-21 21:52:36 UTC  

the ideal is solid

everyone works what best they can without a special reward, so taht everyone can survive due to enough production being made and no one being left out

2018-03-21 21:52:40 UTC  

it would be stupid if humans could accomlish it

2018-03-21 21:52:54 UTC  

yup, because nothing would evolve

2018-03-21 21:53:01 UTC  

and there would be no incentive to

2018-03-21 21:53:09 UTC  

there would be 😮 what makes you think there wouldn't?

2018-03-21 21:53:28 UTC  

if your ideal is "everyone survives" your ideal is stupid

2018-03-21 21:53:33 UTC  

things would evolve because the people who are happy workers will just invent stuff because "why not?"

2018-03-21 21:53:40 UTC  

evolution is all about coming up with an advantage over other things, if that doesn't exist

2018-03-21 21:53:45 UTC  

then it wont happe

2018-03-21 21:53:51 UTC  

its not about everyone survives

2018-03-21 21:54:12 UTC  

its about "i'm a doctor, i save lives daily, and i don't need the extra money, here someone else can have it" same for workers, farmers, engineers, scientists etc

2018-03-21 21:54:18 UTC  

and normal workers too

2018-03-21 21:54:32 UTC  

plumbers working with a smile with their hands covered in clogged toilet poop

2018-03-21 21:54:46 UTC  

Which doesn't work for humans, because we're lazy greedy bastards that want more and more

2018-03-21 21:55:03 UTC  

Lazy isn't the proper term