Message from @LotheronPrime

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2018-03-21 21:56:44 UTC  

some doctors

2018-03-21 21:56:44 UTC  

sure

2018-03-21 21:56:51 UTC  

not enough though

2018-03-21 21:56:55 UTC  

Some doctors would.

2018-03-21 21:57:23 UTC  

You've got to consider the reasoning behind different career choices. Some people arrive at the same career through different paths and personality types.

2018-03-21 21:57:27 UTC  

not enough people would study for months on end, whole evenings etc whilst their counterparts go out and bang chicks cuz, who cares, you get paid the same, you get the same house and car value

2018-03-21 21:57:42 UTC  

that, exactly

2018-03-21 21:57:52 UTC  

and I argue that's a bad outlook on life

2018-03-21 21:57:53 UTC  

the inherent problem is that the focus of communism is completely wrong

2018-03-21 21:57:55 UTC  

you'd get some people sure

But not nearly enough

2018-03-21 21:57:56 UTC  

we're supposed to THRIVE

2018-03-21 21:58:05 UTC  

You've got doctors that want to help people, you've also got doctors who like the godlike power of life/death.

2018-03-21 21:58:15 UTC  

Some do it out of empathy, some do it out of ego.

2018-03-21 21:58:20 UTC  

thriving is competition.. all species are in competition

2018-03-21 21:58:25 UTC  

yes, and a big fat paycheck is good motivation too

2018-03-21 21:58:27 UTC  

its just the natural way of things

2018-03-21 21:58:51 UTC  

but if your paycheck equals that of a janitor.. where's the motivation beyond altruism?

2018-03-21 21:59:09 UTC  

communism says everyone should be/have "the same" while the focus should ba that everyone should have as much as possible.

2018-03-21 21:59:10 UTC  

but thats why it wont work

Humans aren't generally "Oh i'll work my hardest for no extra cost cuz i'm just that nice"

2018-03-21 21:59:10 UTC  

besies

2018-03-21 21:59:13 UTC  

besides

2018-03-21 21:59:16 UTC  

you CAN DO THAT NOW

2018-03-21 21:59:19 UTC  

if you're a doctor

2018-03-21 21:59:22 UTC  

you can do it for free

2018-03-21 21:59:25 UTC  

or janitor wages

2018-03-21 21:59:28 UTC  

now if you so choose

2018-03-21 21:59:31 UTC  

and yet very few do

2018-03-21 21:59:49 UTC  

so given the choice, it doesn't happen, so you can't force it with acceptable results

2018-03-21 22:00:14 UTC  

of course there are those that do

2018-03-21 22:00:26 UTC  

but not enough for it to be anything more than a rounding error.. lets be honest

2018-03-21 22:00:42 UTC  

@I AM ERROR you don't understand communism then

Its not about everyone getting "the same"

Its about everyone working their hardest on whatever job they're doing, and not expecting anything extra compared to others, the end result will be everyone gets "the same" but its by choice, not to make things fair

Thats why it wont work, because humans don't work for that amount of payoff

2018-03-21 22:00:45 UTC  

most drs donate their time to doctors without borders or something similar.. but they still make hefty wages at home

2018-03-21 22:01:20 UTC  

I shouldn't say most doctors, some altruistic ones, I mean

2018-03-21 22:01:28 UTC  

but its a rounding error out of the millions of doctors out there

2018-03-21 22:01:41 UTC  

The implication there being that all work is equally as valuable.

2018-03-21 22:01:45 UTC  

Which simply isn't the case.

2018-03-21 22:01:51 UTC  

correct

2018-03-21 22:02:01 UTC  

but that's what communism says

2018-03-21 22:02:14 UTC  

but its the same with Anarcho Capitalism

It wont work because a group of people can just pull a Negan, and basically kill whoever is succesful for their wealth, live off of that, and move on

Or establish a large community/country and group their resourcese to destroy opposing factions

2018-03-21 22:02:16 UTC  

all work is equal, all labor is equal, all labor is equally fruitful

2018-03-21 22:02:34 UTC  

its about everyone having what they -need- (which makes them the same in the end)