Ahh, well, I'm talking about American problems, largely.

i know... and i'm fully aware that you have to take societal differences into account

But yeah, one instance is Philando Castile. He was shot because the police officer couldn't tell the difference between a gun and a wallet, after Philando announced that he was a licensed concealed carry.

He got off with a not guilty verdict, and I understand why

But he very clearly should not be operating in the capacity of a police officer as a result of his actions

yeah... i actually agree with that verdict as tragic as the event was, and yes the officer not being "in the street" is also something i would agree with

But with the court system, there's no way of assuring that.

You either send a cop to jail - which generally doesn't end well

or you let them go free - and they're free to join a different police force

from an outsiders perspective... i'm happy that i don't live in the US because while there are a lot of great things about the country there is so much f'ed up shit, i rather pass.

in germany the cop would probably be doing office work until he retires

Incidents like these are rare, though.

somewhat.

i'm sure they are... but i really prefer to chit chat with a police officer during a traffic stop 😄

But, I mean, most people do.

News only reports bad things.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/homeland-security-to-compile-database-of-journalists-and-media-influencers/

https://reason.com/blog/2018/04/06/my-familys-peashooter-is-an-now-an-illeg

Also, it's really one of those situations where it's easy to *say* "oh I can see that he's just bringing out a wallet", and actually being there in-person.

There's a reason you're instructed to not do anything such as make quick movements for your pockets in front of police officers.

When you're pulled over, don't move around a lot and just keep your hands on the steering wheel, etc.

And yeah, when you actually see the video that was taken, you'll see that he was clearly freaked out. He was clearly not ready to be out on active duty yet.

He was not. He said for the guy to get his wallet then freaked out when he did as asked.

I don't know how to respond to that other than to say that no, he was?

He clearly was if you saw that video.

Unless you're trying to say he was putting on some kind of act?

When in doubt, say specifically what you're going to do, then do so, slowly. If that isn't good enough, get out of the car.

Ask before you do anything.

I agree it shouldn't be this way, but this is more a matter of police training than it is anything else.

Indeed, the fact that officers in the US only get half a year's worth of training before they hit the streets is absolutely incomprehensible to me.

Becoming an officer over here is literally getting a Bachelor's degree, and takes at least three years.

same here... and one of the hardest jobs to get.

@JadenFrostwolf I was agreeing that the cop was not ready for active duty. He asked for the guy to give him info, so he was getting his info. The cop freaked out that the dude was slowly reaching for his info and started to scream don't reach for "it", and it was clear to both parties that "it" meant the gun and the driver said "I'm not". This cop was clearly not in a good state of mind to be out on patrol.

Yeah, I read that convo, it was more just a general statement than specifically addressed to you, sorry. lol

It was a generalized 'you', not a *you* 'you.'

*Checks to make sure that makes sense.*

..yeah..

Well this is interesting. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/07/ala-teen-turns-down-25-year-plea-deal-gets-sentenced-to-65-years-instead-and-laughs.html

TL;DR:4 people break into house, cops show up, one robber starts shooting at the cops, cops fire back, killing him. Now one of the other remaining 3 is being sentenced to 65 years for the robbery and a count of murder... Of the robber killed by the police.

Was he the leader of the group?

I learned in class that they'll sometimes pin any other crimes committed by the others on the ringleader, but I don't remember that applying to the police.