Message from @RyeNorth

Discord ID: 449082293571682304


2018-05-24 05:28:47 UTC  

Government person A is speaking on that grass

2018-05-24 05:28:51 UTC  

we already went over this. a public forum, by the legal definition they are using, is not restricted to public land.

2018-05-24 05:28:52 UTC  

the company does whatever they want, period.

2018-05-24 05:29:19 UTC  

can u link me to that definition

2018-05-24 05:29:29 UTC  

because I dont think it talks about virtual worlds

2018-05-24 05:29:31 UTC  

But we've got a digital equivalent.

2018-05-24 05:29:32 UTC  

it talks about land

2018-05-24 05:29:46 UTC  

It doesn't specify land, I don't believe.

2018-05-24 05:30:04 UTC  

well not private one anyway

2018-05-24 05:30:11 UTC  

and twitter is private virtual "land"

2018-05-24 05:30:19 UTC  

Is there any history of moderation for public land? (And to what extent?)

2018-05-24 05:30:26 UTC  

The point is, there's no historical basis for his twitter account to be a public forum.

2018-05-24 05:30:54 UTC  

i think there might be. depends on how far back you want to consider history, tbh.

2018-05-24 05:31:24 UTC  

If twitter is a public forum then my living room is too

2018-05-24 05:31:28 UTC  

actually

2018-05-24 05:31:29 UTC  

but there is no denying social media is a common avenue for political discourse

2018-05-24 05:31:44 UTC  

I misinterpreted what it meant by 'traditional'.

2018-05-24 05:32:08 UTC  

"by tradition or practice"

2018-05-24 05:32:08 UTC  

What they're saying is that that particular type of spot has been used

2018-05-24 05:32:42 UTC  

So, street corners, check.

2018-05-24 05:32:51 UTC  

Public parks, check.

2018-05-24 05:33:20 UTC  

If someone generally allows it in their land, they can't suddenly change their mind while it's an active ground.

2018-05-24 05:33:27 UTC  

look, no company can block u from being in a park, but twitter can block u from being in twitter

2018-05-24 05:33:35 UTC  

thats the difference right there

2018-05-24 05:33:37 UTC  

But how does that translate to digital?

2018-05-24 05:33:51 UTC  

If the govt had a official twitter-like platform then it would be different

2018-05-24 05:34:11 UTC  

You have to look at it in a generic sense, or in specific history.

2018-05-24 05:34:22 UTC  

In practice, Twitter has been censorious.

2018-05-24 05:34:28 UTC  

page 13 on

2018-05-24 05:35:26 UTC  

It's not a good sign when the heading says *and its demise*

2018-05-24 05:36:25 UTC  

I've been linked a thesis, then? :/

2018-05-24 05:36:36 UTC  

A "traditional", or "open, public forum" is a place with a long tradition of freedom of expression, such as a public park or a street corner. The government can normally impose only content-neutral time, place, and manner restrictions on speech in a public forum. Restrictions on speech in a public forum that are based on content will be struck down, unless the government can show the restriction is necessary to further a compelling governmental interest.

2018-05-24 05:36:39 UTC  

that is a description

2018-05-24 05:36:46 UTC  

not the cause of it being a open public forum

2018-05-24 05:37:09 UTC  

This argument is in semantics, anyway.

2018-05-24 05:37:40 UTC  

from what this is saying, the idea of a public forum is that the government cannot tell people where they can assemble. their example is a town forbidding a meeting hall owner from renting out to communists to host a public meeting.

2018-05-24 05:39:40 UTC  

legal Definition of open forum
: a government property that is opened to the public for expressive activities of any kind — compare limited public forum

2018-05-24 05:39:58 UTC  

I found this definition in a website that is like a dictionary for lawyers

2018-05-24 05:40:08 UTC  

The argument, as I've seen it presented has been ```1. Any action taken by the president is an action of the government
2. Donald Trump's personal twitter account is to be considered an open public forum
3. Twitter, as a whole, as a privately owned company, may remain a private forum```

Have I misrepresented anything?