yeah plenty of kickstarters have promised heaps and delivered sometimes nothing

this is more of a journalism issue than an advertisment issue

specificly as im talking about it

anyone seen this pewdiepie thing? https://twitter.com/pewdiepie/status/1000136776852426752

vice really is trying to dig themselves into a hole they can never escape

yeah that's pretty common and what i've come to expect from vice

remember that "retreat" island video vice did.... hypocritical much

this is just actual slander

Can we copystrike vice?

well i know what tomarrows pewdiepie video will be about

https://imgur.com/ZqiodrA

i wonder if someday tim might work for pew news

that could work out

he might ignore it since he's already said he doesn't want to deal with that situation anymore, him responding to vice any more than he has will just get other media outlets defending the indefensible

idk, i think this is so bad suing them might actually be viable

chances are they're already re-writing it and will silently update the article and say nothing... standard trad media

somebody needs to finish a suit so we can have a order that all retractions have to be publicly announced

im not sure that will actually protect them. theoreticly it can because once it gets to the matter of redactions its a gray area of the law that only has case points to stand on, a judge could easly weigh that redaction doesent actually reverse the damage that slander does in some contexts

i don't even bother reading these things, not worth the annoyance.... there already is stuff like newsdiffs that people use because they've lost all trust

law is the law though

yeah but the gawker thing didn't make the ones leftover more cautious

ive heard rumors about the posibility of someone trying to sue a youtuber for slander

or defamation

if anything actually comes of it ill probably add it here.

Unrelated: I don't blame Trump for backing down on summit

yeah i kinda changed my mind when i heard more about it

Like, it's really difficult to just point fingers. International politics has a lot of nuance

Why exactly did happen? The letter stated the behaviour of the foregn official of north korea, but I can't find anymore news about it

Short summary from the news i know about that:
- NK and SK were to have a summit, NK and US were to have a summit
- SK and US did some joint military training, NK was put off by that and insulted
- NK cancelled summit with SK, NK said they were considering cancelling with US
- US cancels summit beforehand with letter, but is still open to renegotiating a new summit

end result, US shows NK and world they are in this out of kindness, and don't really care much for NK's aggression, but are still willing to continue to play nice. So its up to NK now to either suffer, or grovel back. US can't fall into a doormat position anymore in negotiations with NK

You missed that 12h after Trumps letter NK said they still want the meeting.

indeed i did miss that, i didn't know newer news already happened

good to hear

yea, I dont know why it took so long to do that, NK is nothing to fear

maybe happened sooner but they announced it later

I mean as in the west has been fearing NK for so long

and now when NK has to back down they do

the US just had to poke them a bit, it could have been done years ago

welcome to the art of not being a cuck-statesmen,

Most current western leaders are these ivory towered idiots who go to other leaders, shake hands, drink wine and eat caviar, and basically discuss matters with the goal of doing whats best for the "OTHER" country.

Any leader outside Europe and the US spits on such negotiations because they want whats best for themselves, aka, negotiating like a business
Trump does like that to, so he slaps NK around if it misbehaves, instead of idle threats and practically begging them to behave

and i speak of experience,
My countries (Netherlands) Premier, in 2015 went to Turkey in name of the European Union, to negotiate that turkey would block the wave of immigrants from Syria etc,

Him and Erdogan ended up settling that the EU would pay Turkey 3 Billion euros so they'd stop the migrants from crossing into Greece,
Erdogan got the money and did absolutely nothing,

Then the same premier went back in 2016 to re-negotiate, and settled for ANOTHER 3 billion euros, and THEN Erdogan finally did something

lolol