"No, these aren't hate speech. These are describing particular ways that men mistreat women. Holding people accountable when they demean others--ESPECIALLY when they have more social power--is not hate speech."

so jailing blacks for committing crimes is good then? Even if they might make up a disproportionate number of crimes committed. perfect, i agree.

they have hate crimes, not really speech

so like.. if you kill someone, its murder, if you kill someone because theyre white or whatever, its a hate crime

its not speech, its motive. they can use speech to try and prove motive to make it a hate crime, but its not the speech itself

true

same goes for trying to prove discrimination

"wow. that's a load of crock. now ppl are creating victims out of themselves to silence others from criticizing their garbage. this is like the incels thing, all over again."

wait, i though incels were mostly white males or some other okay to hate on group? but this guy just described most of the left these days.... so confused. its like they are one step off of self-aware

I am not english, but isn't hate speech just an attack for race gender religion etc reason? And mansplaining is basically used to silence people who are assumed to be condescending/generalizing against women.
Using the mansplaining thing isn't hate speech then, just rude and presumptous...

well, some people would say hate speech is using speech to silence minorities

I don't thing minority matters....

Like in that context

well, marginalized

whatever new word they use to describe people who are protected

also, by denying the problems of an entire gender by dismissing them with one word, could be considered encouraging continued violence against them. I.E. ignoring the complains of a woman that she is being sexually harassed as her just women-complaining or something.

mansplaining can be used in that way, therefore the term is hate speech, because context doesn't matter. like the n word.

I agree that using mansplaining to shut someone up is rude and not nice. But hate speech is a loaded thing that I would not use lightly. Especially if the silencing is not enforced and it just disrupts conversations...

well i think the point is that the term hate-speech is used like every other buzz word, like racism, sexism, islamaphobia

most things called "hate-speech" are mostly people just being dick-bags

and if we'd all stop being snowflakes and just call someone a d-bag and ignore them, move on, or better yet, prove them wrong, things would work themselves out

that's not possible, dave

"Men men spread because we wear genitals outside. If you don’t like, please demand women to contract heir boobs inside of their bodies"

big boobs are demeaning to those with smaller boobs, all women should be forced to strap their boobs down so that we all look like men.

Yeah. If I have the feeling someone is being condescending towards me I tell them...

Why the generalizatiom

I would say attacking the credibility of a person based on their gender should qualify as this hate speech thingie everyone is talking about.

I'm really on the fence because that opens up the whole can words be attacks thing

there's no such thing as hate speech in the US

and there never *should* be

used to say *will* but I dunno anymore

also @I AM ERROR we already have terms for that slander/libel

But that is mostly words that cause your image in general eye damage. If someone insults you with mansplaining just makes them look dumb and out of arguments.

words that have a financial or reputational harm

insulting someone is fair game

and always should be, just walk away and ignore

So, the media is allowed to report on TR arrest now I guess

and they're saying that 1) he pled guilty and 2) he expressed regrets

this is giving rise to people saying he should be there and he committed a crime and the FreeTommy movement should stop now

but you know fuck free speech right?

free speech doesn't exist outside America

only "Speech we agree with"

right