Message from @LEER
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That one's good for a laugh
i think the next step would be to find or come up with a good female base alternative to the term "mansplaining" as they seem to describe it. Which is basically men being condescending to women. Need to come up with women being condescending to men in areas where men will most likely have more personal experience in.
and ask if it is hatespeech
"BUT TIM! You can't be hateful against Men because power + prejuduce * word salad / Neo-Marxist REEEEEEEEEEE."
so theyre saying woman arent powerful
2.5bn people on this planet are reigned over by a over 90yr old woman
well ignore those, because that is a different argument in which it can't be hate speech against men
there are lot that are saying its not attacking the person but describing a behavior
which to me sounds more like a stereotype but hey
"We shouldn't dilute terms like this. It's not hate speech. Do you think any court in the US would agree with you? "
no us court would agree with hate speech period, but nice try this person
describing the behaviour would be saying "they explained something"
US does have hate speech laws.. but they are only when in connection to a violent crime
"No, these aren't hate speech. These are describing particular ways that men mistreat women. Holding people accountable when they demean others--ESPECIALLY when they have more social power--is not hate speech."
so jailing blacks for committing crimes is good then? Even if they might make up a disproportionate number of crimes committed. perfect, i agree.
they have hate crimes, not really speech
so like.. if you kill someone, its murder, if you kill someone because theyre white or whatever, its a hate crime
its not speech, its motive. they can use speech to try and prove motive to make it a hate crime, but its not the speech itself
true
same goes for trying to prove discrimination
"wow. that's a load of crock. now ppl are creating victims out of themselves to silence others from criticizing their garbage. this is like the incels thing, all over again."
wait, i though incels were mostly white males or some other okay to hate on group? but this guy just described most of the left these days.... so confused. its like they are one step off of self-aware
I am not english, but isn't hate speech just an attack for race gender religion etc reason? And mansplaining is basically used to silence people who are assumed to be condescending/generalizing against women.
Using the mansplaining thing isn't hate speech then, just rude and presumptous...
well, some people would say hate speech is using speech to silence minorities
I don't thing minority matters....
Like in that context
well, marginalized
whatever new word they use to describe people who are protected
also, by denying the problems of an entire gender by dismissing them with one word, could be considered encouraging continued violence against them. I.E. ignoring the complains of a woman that she is being sexually harassed as her just women-complaining or something.
mansplaining can be used in that way, therefore the term is hate speech, because context doesn't matter. like the n word.
I agree that using mansplaining to shut someone up is rude and not nice. But hate speech is a loaded thing that I would not use lightly. Especially if the silencing is not enforced and it just disrupts conversations...
well i think the point is that the term hate-speech is used like every other buzz word, like racism, sexism, islamaphobia
most things called "hate-speech" are mostly people just being dick-bags
and if we'd all stop being snowflakes and just call someone a d-bag and ignore them, move on, or better yet, prove them wrong, things would work themselves out
that's not possible, dave
"Men men spread because we wear genitals outside. If you don’t like, please demand women to contract heir boobs inside of their bodies"
big boobs are demeaning to those with smaller boobs, all women should be forced to strap their boobs down so that we all look like men.
Yeah. If I have the feeling someone is being condescending towards me I tell them...
Why the generalizatiom
I would say attacking the credibility of a person based on their gender should qualify as this hate speech thingie everyone is talking about.
I'm really on the fence because that opens up the whole can words be attacks thing
there's no such thing as hate speech in the US
and there never *should* be