Message from @Othman
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"A religious leader and his people were oppressed and kicked out of their land for having a different opinion on religion than the leaders of that land, then said leaders stole their belongings and tortured their family members that did not leave the land, so God gave them the green right to take back what was theirs in the first place"
@Deleted User I have read the entire Quran multiple times
Lol what
That's not the origins of Islam at all
Muhammad was a heretic that was kicked out of Medina for preaching an unpopular religion
look up the story of Mohammed and Al Hijra (The Migration to Yathrib) story
Then he fled to Mekka
And preached his beliefs there
He gained a following
Conquered Medina
read what the oppressive leaders of Mecca and specifically the (Quraish) tribe did to him and his people
And began forcibly conquered the rest of the middle east
no he did not conquer Medina
Yes he did
That is historically documented
he went to Medina with just 73 people, and the people of Medina welcomed him and his people and chose him as a leader
hello hello
how could he conquer an entire town with just 73 people, many of whom are women and children?
what's going on here
Wait, sorry. It's the other way around
He was kicked out of Mecca and converted the people in Medina
Then he conquered Mecca
he did not conquer mecca because mecca was his land in the first place
when he came back to Mecca, he did not shed a single drop of blood, even though he could've
GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 7!
the people of Mecca, who oppressed him and kicked Mohammed and his people out of his land
"The conquest of Mecca (Arabic: فتح مكة fatḥ makkah) refers to the event when Mecca was conquered by Muslims led by Muhammad in December 629 or January 630 AD,[3][4] (Julian), 10-20 Ramadan, 8 AH.[3]"
oh a muslim debate
what's the point of this then?
@quinnn He's saying that islam is a religion of peace or something (I'm not sure what he is trying to say)
But if you scroll up you can look at the verses I got from the Quran
"On the eve of the opening, Abu Sufyan adopted Islam." @Deleted User
What about it?
why do you think Aby Sufyan, a famous leader of the Quraish tribe and an expert in military tactics would convert to Islam?
He went into Mohammed's tent and talked to him, and converted to Islam
What is the relevance of Sufyan
He stilled militarily conquered Mecca
Doesn't matter what Sufyan did
at the time, Mohammed and his people were camping outside of Mecca, they haven't entered Mecca yet and haven't made any threats
 
       
       
      