Message from @zutt

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2018-05-29 19:48:10 UTC  

It wasnt properly establiahed but even i can see it happened

2018-05-29 19:48:19 UTC  

He filmed himself doing that

2018-05-29 19:48:27 UTC  

Irrelevant what someone can 'see' happening.

2018-05-29 19:48:39 UTC  

You mean everyone

2018-05-29 19:48:57 UTC  

You can have literally millions of eye witnesses, someone is -innocent- until the opposite is proven by due process in a court of law.

2018-05-29 19:49:04 UTC  

True

2018-05-29 19:49:28 UTC  

Thats the reason why he got into trouble in the first place afterall

2018-05-29 19:49:52 UTC  

But you have to admit that in propper trial he would lose

2018-05-29 19:50:22 UTC  

Again, doubtful, as I've seen plenty of arguments as to why he's innocent.

2018-05-29 19:51:23 UTC  

Why ?

2018-05-29 19:51:43 UTC  

I have seen arguments why the law is bad

2018-05-29 19:51:59 UTC  

But none to why he could not have break it

2018-05-29 19:52:06 UTC  

He arguably wasn't reporting from court property, I've seen people claim he wasn't reporting on the case, and merely using the courthouse as a backdrop...

2018-05-29 19:52:25 UTC  

Come now 😀

2018-05-29 19:52:40 UTC  

Thats very weak

2018-05-29 19:52:43 UTC  

If any of this is true or not, I dunno, we've not had a proper trial to establish the facts.

2018-05-29 19:52:58 UTC  

No but we can have opinion

2018-05-29 19:53:10 UTC  

And he clearly did reported on the case

2018-05-29 19:53:17 UTC  

In real time

2018-05-29 19:53:26 UTC  

During court proceedings

2018-05-29 19:53:34 UTC  

Thats the problem

2018-05-29 19:54:19 UTC  

To paraphrase Jean-Luc Picard: "A trial is a crucible, in it we burn away irrelevancies until we are left with a pure product: The truth." This 'crucible' was tainted, willingly so, and as such, to protect the concept of innocent until proven guilty, a mistrial must be declared and Tommy has to walk free. His guilt is, due to the actions taken against him, utterly irrelevant now.

2018-05-29 19:54:51 UTC  

Well it will be interesting for sure

2018-05-29 19:54:59 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth ironically, people are usually more likely to get a sunburn, because they are less likely to put on sunscreen or seek shade, but are still in the sun the whole time.

2018-05-29 20:02:15 UTC  

@zutt @Somi regardless of the truth, if there is not a fair trail, you cannot say with 100% certainty it was the truth. He may very well have lost a trail.... but he may not have. that is the point of legal counsel. He did ask what was considered court grounds to one of the officers or officials standing outside the court. This could be reference to trying to avoid breaking the law again. There is also where he reported any more than what other news outlets were reporting. But since the well was tainted, he could very well be let go....which is ironically what the defense of the media ban on the very trail he was reporting on is to prevent. to keep potentially guilty people from being let free because the trail is tainted by media coverage that has cause the jurors to be bias.

2018-05-29 20:03:16 UTC  

(this, ironically, despite the fact that the jurors' potential bias was irrelevant, as the case he was at was simply at the sentencing stage already, not in the midst of procedure)

2018-05-29 20:03:28 UTC  

Well its interesting for sure

2018-05-29 20:03:47 UTC  

there is a 3rd group being tried in September that is related to this trail

2018-05-29 20:03:48 UTC  

I myself dont think it was worth it

2018-05-29 20:04:03 UTC  

while these guys were found guilty, the 3rd group might have innocent people in it

2018-05-29 20:04:22 UTC  

which is why the media ban is still in place

2018-05-29 20:05:31 UTC  

who's bright idea this was? maybe some activist in the court system trying to keep this quiet as long as possible, who knows

2018-05-29 20:09:31 UTC  

>footage of Luik attacker shouting aloha snackbar

2018-05-29 20:09:49 UTC  

>"he has the profile of a repeat offender, not a terrorist"

2018-05-29 20:09:56 UTC  

lmao

2018-05-29 20:12:15 UTC  

how about, if you call your god great in arabic, and murder people while doing it, we can consider it political violence aka terrorism

2018-05-29 20:23:18 UTC  

Check this out. ABC story on Roseanne getting canceled in both links. It’s the same story, but they changed the original title which was “ Roseanne canceled after stars controversial comments” to “ Roseanne canceled after Roseanne Barr’s racist tweet”

First version http://archive.today/h4jla

Second version http://archive.today/KdO52

Why did they change it?

2018-05-29 20:24:32 UTC  

guessing someone complained that it wasnt contrversial

2018-05-29 20:24:57 UTC  

@Timcast
On Friday: 13 months in prison for reporting on the court case.

Today apparently it is okay to report on that court case.

That is just one working day later.

Here is the court record:

Is there a mistake here????

http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Leeds-Crown-Court.php

2018-05-29 20:26:16 UTC  

This seems to be the same trial that the previous day caused TR to be locked up
(I would upload a screen shot but that option not on this channel)

2018-05-29 20:27:03 UTC  

Lol