Message from @Atkins

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2018-06-05 12:17:57 UTC  

try doing that in central america

2018-06-05 12:20:28 UTC  

You would probable stil succeed

2018-06-05 12:21:12 UTC  

Unless you are in realy poverty stricken area at time of long draught

2018-06-05 12:24:44 UTC  

Well, he does have a point.

2018-06-05 12:25:06 UTC  

In the United States, a meal costs less than twenty minutes of labor

2018-06-05 12:28:12 UTC  

im watching this atm

2018-06-05 12:28:28 UTC  

it IS an assumption to assume that over time the refugees integrate

2018-06-05 12:29:11 UTC  

when there are maybe 1 or 2 or 3 in a class of 25 kids, all the rest are natives

2018-06-05 12:29:16 UTC  

they these kids will integrate

2018-06-05 12:29:40 UTC  

any more and you start observing white flight, and then you have a class of 23 immegrant kids who wont integrate

2018-06-05 12:31:13 UTC  

1 immegrant family in the neighborhood is quirky

2018-06-05 12:31:37 UTC  

2 and some people in a small neighborhood will start having second thoughts

2018-06-05 12:32:25 UTC  

if you have 25% of the houses in a neighborhood with immegrant families, when the 75% others sell their house, it most likely wont be to a native

2018-06-05 12:32:47 UTC  

It's a question of the rate of immigration. Slow controlled immigration fine, fast uncontrolled immigration disastrous.

2018-06-05 12:33:00 UTC  

even slow would be bad if they all ended up in the same place though

2018-06-05 12:33:22 UTC  

and they do, as house prices tend to cluster

2018-06-05 12:33:30 UTC  

aka they all buy cheap houses

2018-06-05 12:33:43 UTC  

so they all start living in poorer neighborhoods

2018-06-05 12:34:18 UTC  

so poor people are racist cause they dont want any immegrants

2018-06-05 12:35:17 UTC  

That's where the 'controlled' part of my statement comes in. You shouldn't take just any random person. They need to have the skills necessary to contribute to the economy. So people with degrees that are in demand or people with capital or established businesses.

2018-06-05 12:35:44 UTC  

even if you only take the smarties, as long as they cluster it will still cause problems

2018-06-05 12:35:54 UTC  

Like if you went to India or China and took 100 random people, 95 of them are going to be peasant farmers who can't survive in a western economy.

2018-06-05 12:36:06 UTC  

the smarties that cluster where the jews in pre ww2 germany btw, they made themselves an easy target by self segregation

2018-06-05 12:36:13 UTC  

didnt warrent the horrors that happened to them obviously

2018-06-05 12:36:17 UTC  

They can't 'cluster' if the immigration is slow.

2018-06-05 12:36:31 UTC  

and jews are smart

2018-06-05 12:36:37 UTC  

smartest race in the globe

2018-06-05 12:36:49 UTC  

and that is why they are always the target

2018-06-05 12:36:53 UTC  

just like nerds in high school

2018-06-05 12:36:58 UTC  

the worlds nerds

2018-06-05 12:37:55 UTC  

The horror stories of immigrant ghettos happen when immigration comes in uncontrolled waves where the immigrants can't or aren't expected to integrate into the accepting nation's economy and job market.

2018-06-05 12:38:46 UTC  

Socialist welfare states have particular difficulties because safety nets compete with regular employment.

2018-06-05 12:39:23 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth how do you prevent self segregation without forcing choices upon people?

2018-06-05 12:39:34 UTC  

THAT is the question

2018-06-05 12:39:46 UTC  

i dont see a solution around that without violating rights

2018-06-05 12:39:51 UTC  

its tricky

2018-06-05 12:39:59 UTC  

If they actually have to get jobs, how can they self segregate? The jobs aren't all in the same neighborhood?

2018-06-05 12:40:19 UTC  

Self-segregation is only possible if they aren't expected to work because they can get handouts.

2018-06-05 12:40:22 UTC  

it would involve neighborhood quotas, which is literally denying someone buys a house cause too many of their colour already live there lmao

2018-06-05 12:40:30 UTC  

Or if they all show up in a giant wave at the same place.