Message from @Grenade123
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when there are maybe 1 or 2 or 3 in a class of 25 kids, all the rest are natives
they these kids will integrate
any more and you start observing white flight, and then you have a class of 23 immegrant kids who wont integrate
1 immegrant family in the neighborhood is quirky
2 and some people in a small neighborhood will start having second thoughts
if you have 25% of the houses in a neighborhood with immegrant families, when the 75% others sell their house, it most likely wont be to a native
It's a question of the rate of immigration. Slow controlled immigration fine, fast uncontrolled immigration disastrous.
even slow would be bad if they all ended up in the same place though
and they do, as house prices tend to cluster
aka they all buy cheap houses
so they all start living in poorer neighborhoods
so poor people are racist cause they dont want any immegrants
That's where the 'controlled' part of my statement comes in. You shouldn't take just any random person. They need to have the skills necessary to contribute to the economy. So people with degrees that are in demand or people with capital or established businesses.
even if you only take the smarties, as long as they cluster it will still cause problems
Like if you went to India or China and took 100 random people, 95 of them are going to be peasant farmers who can't survive in a western economy.
the smarties that cluster where the jews in pre ww2 germany btw, they made themselves an easy target by self segregation
didnt warrent the horrors that happened to them obviously
They can't 'cluster' if the immigration is slow.
and jews are smart
smartest race in the globe
just like nerds in high school
the worlds nerds
The horror stories of immigrant ghettos happen when immigration comes in uncontrolled waves where the immigrants can't or aren't expected to integrate into the accepting nation's economy and job market.
Socialist welfare states have particular difficulties because safety nets compete with regular employment.
@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth how do you prevent self segregation without forcing choices upon people?
THAT is the question
i dont see a solution around that without violating rights
its tricky
If they actually have to get jobs, how can they self segregate? The jobs aren't all in the same neighborhood?
Self-segregation is only possible if they aren't expected to work because they can get handouts.
it would involve neighborhood quotas, which is literally denying someone buys a house cause too many of their colour already live there lmao
Or if they all show up in a giant wave at the same place.
or, do you just accept it and just do your best to only let in people who want to be here for here, and not to escape their homeland and just view here as some place to start a new homeland
there are multiple layers of troubles here true
there is also a bigottry of low expectations going on
where people arent expected to do things, if they are a certain shade of brown
i think if you hold immigrates to the same standards as any citizen, and not treat them special because they are immigrates, you should avoid the problem to an extent.
although if you lack a national language, and official one, this becomes a bit harder.
i agree that should happen, but it is not a solution to the problem of the immegrant ghettos that already exist
they just wont report it, or disproportionatly enough report it so it wont matter on the larger scale