Message from @Atkins

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2018-06-05 20:35:49 UTC  

Depends on who they know, who they blow, and their bank balance.

2018-06-05 20:36:08 UTC  

I think Hogg just wants to be famous

2018-06-05 20:36:11 UTC  

but fuck swatters

2018-06-05 20:36:46 UTC  

not only that but if Hogg got hurt it would bolster his cause. This type of bullshit doesnt work. Let Hogg say his piece and let others debate him

2018-06-05 20:37:14 UTC  

for the most part, i haven't been hearing from Hogg too recently.

2018-06-05 20:37:18 UTC  

but i don't go looking so....

2018-06-05 20:37:52 UTC  

Hogg doesn't really debate though.

2018-06-05 20:38:44 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend what crime? you agreed to everything in the ToS *insert monotone voice and zucks face here*

2018-06-05 20:39:11 UTC  

This whole gun control thing isn't a conversation. There's no discussion, no back-and-forth. It's just a screaming match at this point, or worse, just naked exercise of power.

2018-06-05 20:39:16 UTC  

Facebook stock is at all-time highs today, so crime does pay.

2018-06-05 20:39:30 UTC  

Dab on that privacy tbh

2018-06-05 20:39:57 UTC  

it always has been a screaming match really

2018-06-05 20:40:28 UTC  

just autistic screeching all around and people in middle wishing they would both shut up and do something.

2018-06-05 20:40:35 UTC  

what that something is? no one knows

2018-06-05 20:42:30 UTC  

the gun control debate is 100% useless. i'm firmly in the "no guns for anyone"-camp but i do realize that it is absolutely impossible to get rid of the amount of guns that are in circulation.

2018-06-05 20:43:49 UTC  

if you can't get rid of ALL the guns, then the people that WILL have them will be the ones that do not care about laws.

2018-06-05 20:44:13 UTC  

which are the ones you least want to have them

2018-06-05 20:46:16 UTC  

or the people who make the laws

2018-06-05 20:47:05 UTC  

nah... usually more the people enforcing them

2018-06-05 20:48:24 UTC  

rather get shot than get doused in acid tbh. at least leave people knives.

2018-06-05 20:48:43 UTC  

so if a motherfucker wants to rob me at least i don't get my face melted

2018-06-05 20:49:37 UTC  

or, i guess you could use the same magic wand you'd need to get rid of guns to get rid of crime too

2018-06-05 20:51:16 UTC  

that's why i said that it is completely unrealistic to get rid of all guns in the us 😉

2018-06-05 20:52:15 UTC  

so basically "perfect scenario: no one has them, since that is not possible - why bother with disarming the people that do not break the law?"

2018-06-05 20:52:42 UTC  

the greatist act of tyranny is when a body of authority takes the method of the people to singlehandedly defend the rights they are told are protected

2018-06-05 20:53:11 UTC  

I think the perfect scenario would actually be no one wants to shoot me for the $20 I keep in my wallet and my 5 year old cell phone.

2018-06-05 20:53:45 UTC  

Although I do not agree with your baseline view falko. I do respect your method of approaching the issue.

2018-06-05 20:54:09 UTC  

Failing that I'd prefer retaining the ability to at least return fire.

2018-06-05 20:54:41 UTC  

well... i was talking about guns only... fixing your society was not on the table 😉

2018-06-05 20:57:06 UTC  

if you take guns from the world you better take every weapon more powerful. even then we will be violent with every weapon less powerful until we are reduced to nuggets without arms or legs

2018-06-05 20:57:36 UTC  

were animals, weve been violent for 500 million years

2018-06-05 20:57:41 UTC  

Fair enough, no one should expect one issue to fix society as a whole

2018-06-05 21:00:22 UTC  

you take guns from the people, even if you managed to monopolize all projectile weapons in the world to governemnt control, you would simply make the power imbalance between people hinge on a badge and a loisense that states "im a good guy and theres nothing you can do about it now"

2018-06-05 21:01:43 UTC  

if your government just wants to make you weaker than the people the government says are allowed to be strong, then the government is a criminal organization

2018-06-05 21:02:10 UTC  

of course you have to have a baseline trust your government...

2018-06-05 21:02:31 UTC  

we ensure trust by having a balance of force

2018-06-05 21:02:47 UTC  

if i was living in Venezuela i would probably think differently 😉

2018-06-05 21:03:23 UTC  

no one should have blind trust in anything, not even themselves

2018-06-05 21:04:57 UTC  

blind trust is something different than having a baseline trust that your democracy works

2018-06-05 21:05:50 UTC  

democracys actually require more power to the people than other forms of government

2018-06-05 21:07:02 UTC  

obviously 😄