Message from @Arch-Fiend
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when he asks when the right goes to far, it prolly is in regard of that
not canadian politics
I remember him talking about Hitler's table talks and how conservatives are more sensitive to disgust than liberals. If he ever commented about what it looks like when the right wing takes things too far it would probably involve some of the same points.
Basically a cleaning/ordering response going out of control and being applied to tribal groups.
But Peterson has often said that people of with the underlying personality profiles that correlate to liberal and conservative need each other in order to build robust and functional institutions.
An organization dominated by people with conservative personality traits will stagnate, and become rigid and inflexible. Eventually it will fail to adapt to changing circumstances and collapse, or self-destruct through purity spiralling.
hes a enlightened alt centrist
im a radical alt centrist
im a banana
we eighter have a discussion about the different points of view and each bring the evidence in support of our claim to further both our understandings of each others possitions without resorting to falacies
OR I BLOW ThIS PLACE SKY HIGH
this alt business is stupid - there is right/left libertarian/authoritarian no alt-sh*t
i don't think labels are especially useful when referring to one's self or other individuals. they're only useful for broad generalizations of groups or trends.
alt is reactionary
its to mean you nonestablisment verson of a political spectrum
because multiple consiterations put people on the same point of a political compass
the establishment is irrelevant to the spectrum
its not irrelevant to how people collectivize outside the spectrum
if the "alt-right" just mean they want an ethno-state.... then theyre white nationalists... which is on the authoritarian scale
thats not what the alt-right "just mean"s though which is why they arnt that
they still fit on the spectrum.. theres no need for "alt"
you could have a "party" called the alt-right ... but the spectrum is the spectrum
alt doesent define a position on the spectrum it defines a position of people who are on the same spectrum as other people but disagree fundomentally
its simply a reactionist group against establishment
which are no better defined as a whole than "alt"
thing is ... right has nothing to do with anything about ethnicity... its merely an economical scale
basically what they are... if they are capitalist ... they are auth-right...
the broader political scale takes into consiteration more than economics, whether or not it should is a matter of debate but anyone who has taken a political compass test can assert that more than economical questions are asked
yes, thats for auth and libertarian scales too
which is the social scale
watch the political compass' intro video... it actually explains it all there
most of the time alt righters tend to simply consiter themselves conservitives who arnt neo-cons
the only thing I would say polComp got wrong in my opinion.. is when it said "100% left" means the government would control all services etc .. when really that would be "100% auth, 100% left" .. whereas you could have 100% lib, 100% left where there may not be a government
but although we've had many instances of 100% auth left and right civilisations which went badly... Im not sure there are any examples of "100% lib left or right"
ancaps or ancons?
there wouldn't be because then it wouldn't be a civilization
we havent had many anarchys
it could still be a civ
can't have a civilization without borders really, because how would you define where it starts and ends?
you'd also need to define a scale