im talking about regressives getting into government

DSA people

in 10-15 years regressive could have the military

You mean by controlling the government or by having a majority in it?

Even if someone is in government they don't really control the military unless the military holds the same ideals. For the most part the military is nationalistic, protects the constitution, and are right wing. Leftists hate the military so chances are they don't join.

@Blackhawk342 Think about it the first amendment stops the goverment censoring people so if twitter was run by the goverment then they couldn't legally censor you.

they would need the majority of people to not see through it all... without the people they got nothing

unless they use extreme force straight away

If the military sees that people in government are going against the constitution past the point of no return I believe they would intervene.

And even if they don't right wingers still own most of the guns.

I had an interesting conversation with my aunt yesterday.. shes from the UK but decided to live in teh USSR in 1989 for about 2 years...

@Deleted User Regardless, the american government wont nationalize anything, it would set a dangerous precedent

she said most of the shops were basically empty shelves, so she would stock up for winter on things like rice etc...

CreativeRealms I believe they would probably do what the Commander in Chief tells them to. 😃

@Blackhawk342 Having goverment run media isn't a bad thing it just depends on who is in the goverment.

but although she knew in the back of her mind it was sort of a worry that she might starve to death or might not be able to escape and get back to england... mainly in her day to day it would be trivial things that she would worry about

Exactly, id rather put my faith in individuals than the government

The mass media isn't a individual it's a organization.

Wacka im sure youve heard the story about Yestlin's visit to the US

It's made up of individuals but it's still a organization.

How he wanted to visit a supermarket but insisted on picking one at random because he thought the US would intentionally stock it to give the apperance of prosperity

I think she said it was gorbachov in charge when she was there... could be wrong on that

https://blog.chron.com/thetexican/2014/04/when-boris-yeltsin-went-grocery-shopping-in-clear-lake/

but it was just interesting that she was more worried about trivial things like... watering plants and things than the likely possibility of starving to death

The Soviet Union only did well when they started to libarlize the economy from a planned economy to a mixed economy.

yeah she came back towards the end of the USSR so she sort of got to see a little change.. I guess it was probably even worse before she went

Yes you are right, gorb was in charge but yelstin was still in government

capitalism isn't the answer to everything

but its' the best thing we have

where a human's natural selfishness can benefit others

because not everyone can do it alone

so capitalism is the purist form of tit-for-tat

With regards to the history of the Soviet economy at frist it was mostly between free enterprise in the country and full on planned economy. The free enterprise period lasted untill 1926 when the Soviet Union reached pre-war levels of output so then they went full on planned economy which did help industrialize the place but after that the economy grow so quickly that it couldn't be managed any more so it fell apart.

Capitalism isn't the answer to everything?

No wonder Jeopardy didn't call me back

you know what I mean assjack 😛

😂

In a world where human labor is still required to meet basic needs and unpredictable acts of nature can cause unplanned rearrangement of vast ammounts of resources, some form of capitalism is the best we have

@LotheronPrime I think mixed economics are the best system because it still allows free enterprise while still preventing full on mass consumerism.

whats wrong with consumerism though?

I mean, what horror exists in people using money they earned to buy things they want?

and don't say the environment

because public demand has already shifted in favor of not fucking the environment