Message from @possumsquat93

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2018-06-29 12:51:17 UTC  

Maybe for data that is used by politicians, I suppose. But I don't see the practical purpose, you know?

2018-06-29 12:51:44 UTC  

there is a practical purpose, but people don't wanna discuss it openly because its considered racist

2018-06-29 12:51:49 UTC  

its not something we prosicute on, like they dont just pull a random person off the street, but when you have a gang crime you look for a minority first until you have evidence telling you shouldent

2018-06-29 12:52:04 UTC  

thats just how it is

2018-06-29 12:52:23 UTC  

Now that I think about it, there's a few situations I can think of where race can be used

2018-06-29 12:52:30 UTC  

Like if a gang shooting happens

2018-06-29 12:53:08 UTC  

the only reason we know gang violence is related to race is because we compiled statistics for it, before that we only had intuition

2018-06-29 12:53:27 UTC  

I know, I get it

2018-06-29 12:53:49 UTC  

I just didn't consider all scenarios

2018-06-29 12:54:12 UTC  

obviously the usefulness for any amount of profiling has be known to law enforcement for a long time though which is why profiling and compiling statistics is a very old method of investigation

2018-06-29 12:55:09 UTC  

at this point we just record everything we imagine to be useful

2018-06-29 12:55:55 UTC  

if a white person is killed with a note left "death to white people" and the body is found in a minority dominate area, does it make sense to look at white people first?

2018-06-29 12:56:10 UTC  

well

2018-06-29 12:56:18 UTC  

i mean, if you find out the deceased knew an SJW who was white thats a bit different

2018-06-29 12:56:23 UTC  

but

2018-06-29 12:57:25 UTC  

i think hate crimes against white people while not new have the potental to have new cercomstances that might change how they are profiled

2018-06-29 12:57:43 UTC  

or not, certainly 10 years ago youd be looking for anyone but a white person

2018-06-29 12:58:17 UTC  

yeah

2018-06-29 12:58:41 UTC  

now when there is a supposed hate crime, you need to look at the group it was commited against first

2018-06-29 12:58:47 UTC  

given the number of hoax hate crimes

2018-06-29 14:04:49 UTC  

Democratic socialism is different from social democracy, right? From my understanding, one is about replacing capitalism, and the other is about reforming it.

2018-06-29 14:13:12 UTC  

lets face it, both are about replacing it

2018-06-29 14:14:22 UTC  

the only change is
"We're TAKING your money for others"

Is changed to

"We're GIVING your money to others"

2018-06-29 14:21:46 UTC  

yea

2018-06-29 14:21:49 UTC  

DSA is anti capitalist

2018-06-29 14:21:56 UTC  

wants to give means of production to workers

2018-06-29 14:26:33 UTC  

I've just wondered if people are mixing up their terms when they say "democratic socialism."

2018-06-29 14:27:54 UTC  

Are they against private property, for instance?

2018-06-29 14:29:02 UTC  

can't speak for the DSA, cuz i haven't looked into them

2018-06-29 14:30:01 UTC  

but any democratic socialist, or social democrat

Eventually ends up with wanting to redistribute means of production, which ends up negating private property

2018-06-29 14:30:28 UTC  

social democrat is like scandinavia

2018-06-29 14:30:34 UTC  

they want a capitalistic welfare state

2018-06-29 14:30:45 UTC  

remove the qualifiers

2018-06-29 14:30:55 UTC  

Social democrat is a certain kind of democrat

2018-06-29 14:31:01 UTC  

Democratic socialist is a certian kind of socialist

2018-06-29 14:32:24 UTC  

Democratic socialist is just below the center line to the far left

2018-06-29 14:32:30 UTC  

authoritarian socialist is top left

2018-06-29 14:34:03 UTC  

I can agree with that discription, although i will say that the social democrats are a slippery slope

2018-06-29 14:35:38 UTC  

in Europe for example, the labor parties are often "social democrats" and in order to buy votes they wanna increase the welfare state,
Which is a slope that slowly starts claiming more, until people just pay the majority they earn into taxes

2018-06-29 14:37:07 UTC  

and Norway i believe pays its welfare state with state oil