Message from @Arch-Fiend
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I don't see the point of racial profiling personally, though
Its for identifying the root cause imo,
For example
If you have people of a certain culture committing honor killings, its not exactly useful to look at the cultures that DON'T commit honor killings
its also useful politically for the groups of people who want to try and fix problems (whether or not they have good ideas)
@Dr.Wol I understand based on ideology, but race is what confused me
i never said ideology, i said culture
Class based profiling also makes sense
Or even location based
im not a police officer however if i was at a crime scene compiling evidence, if there was a certain kind of crime this evidence pointed strongly toward then that might be the first avenue i pursue, and then perhaps that crime is more common among certain groups (racial or not) of people and then that may also potentally help the investigation
its a narrow line, but there IS good reason for racial too, because you need it for scientific elimination,
Say you're looking at a crime area, and the overwhelming majority is black people, You have to find out WHY that is
You shouldn't act on it and just assume "oh, majority is black, therefore ALL black"
But you should eliminate as much factors as you can
gang crime often points to minoritys in the us so thats why its a statistic, if it doesent then it would probably also point to class and location
@Arch-Fiend but all crime is popular among all groups. It seems as wide as profiling people by blood type
yeah thats not true
its not equal by any means
I see the point of community based profiling
Like a ghetto
But by race?
weve literally compiled statistics that imply racial biases to certain crimes
Maybe for data that is used by politicians, I suppose. But I don't see the practical purpose, you know?
there is a practical purpose, but people don't wanna discuss it openly because its considered racist
its not something we prosicute on, like they dont just pull a random person off the street, but when you have a gang crime you look for a minority first until you have evidence telling you shouldent
thats just how it is
Now that I think about it, there's a few situations I can think of where race can be used
Like if a gang shooting happens
the only reason we know gang violence is related to race is because we compiled statistics for it, before that we only had intuition
I know, I get it
I just didn't consider all scenarios
obviously the usefulness for any amount of profiling has be known to law enforcement for a long time though which is why profiling and compiling statistics is a very old method of investigation
at this point we just record everything we imagine to be useful
if a white person is killed with a note left "death to white people" and the body is found in a minority dominate area, does it make sense to look at white people first?
well
i mean, if you find out the deceased knew an SJW who was white thats a bit different
but
i think hate crimes against white people while not new have the potental to have new cercomstances that might change how they are profiled
or not, certainly 10 years ago youd be looking for anyone but a white person
yeah
now when there is a supposed hate crime, you need to look at the group it was commited against first
given the number of hoax hate crimes
Democratic socialism is different from social democracy, right? From my understanding, one is about replacing capitalism, and the other is about reforming it.
lets face it, both are about replacing it
the only change is
"We're TAKING your money for others"
Is changed to
"We're GIVING your money to others"