Also I don't think that enough people really grokk how statistics work to not make stupid assumptions based on the data. If you say "Men are on average taller than women" someone else will say "Oh yeah, well Venus Williams is 6'1" and you're only 5'10""

Are people that dumb? I'm sure they just want to argue for the point or arguing

If you need to say 'hashtag not all' then you are talking to an idiot

I think it's a combination of the two in most cases. Cognitive dissonance between "men and woman are equal in every way" and the observable fact

Not saying that all of this discussion should be entirely verboten, just that we're in a shitty position, and now of all times is probably the wrong time to discuss it. But hey, maybe despite inspiring some crazies to fling shit it'll shift the overton window enough to have useful discussion

I think it will never be the right time until people do start talking about it. It will always have that awkward point whenever we start the ball rolling, and by the time the ball is rolling it will be time.

And dickheads will always exist, but lets not let them stop the future of humanity

I pretty much agree, but racial relations feel like the worst they've been since the Rodney King riots, and they've only been seeming to go downhill

People only need to move 1 inch at a time to move 1 mile

But going half a mile back to move forward mile later when your back to a cliff is a poor proposition.

idk I'm just some dude on the internet. I hope things work out however it happens, and if not then at least I've got plenty of popcorn in the pantry

Race relations is bad because only the alt right is talking about race, of course blacks don't like what they are hearing. But if pro black sides talked about it, I'm sure blacks would like to hear why they are better in some ways

Man, I really wish only the alt right was talking about race.

As in race realism...

haha I know

I mean im sure you see more people yelling about it and providing their opinion to the conversation than ever before

Not sure that its worse than previous years, i think its just in the spotlight more

It is definitely more violently volatile I think

It's easier to get a smack in the chops now days, but it hurts less because soybois can't punch

The only thing I wanted to comment about the Zack Wood stuff is that I wonder when he thought this uncivil rhetoric started, because I think it's gone on longer than he would think. It hasn't been just this decade when middle America felt slighted by the elites.

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Not American, but I'm going to guess it started between 1989 and 1994

@Arch-Fiend yeah I know, but I don't want to interrupt good debate, when everyone here already knows to just scroll past my shit

eh we stopped talking in there a few hours ago

just put it there if your were interested in seeing

Where the pics go? I got a pic of two opposite headlines from the 1 journalist

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http://archive.is/rSKaM KIA founder tried to nuke the subreddit

So hes crying that KIA is no longer under his control?

He had admin permissions

No longer

i saw his post, he writes like an insane person

its like reading a long nonsequiter at times

Re: The IQ thing, it's not even "you're smarter" because it's not a baseline or a maximum, it's an average. It's "you're statistically more likely to be more intelligent". One of the hilarious things about using IQ as a reason to boot people of a particular race is that it also applies to a substantial portion of any other racial group you'd want to discuss, which is why the " we need to kick out the low IQ blacks lol" argument always gets walked back as long as you push a little on it

But it does raise a point where if you bring a bunch of people from a poverish society or just dump resources to get them into a rich environment, would it be beneficial or damaging

Dumping resources pretty much never solves the problem

Well it always seems to be a choice

But to the extent that IQ can be influenced (IIRC it's majority nature, but nurture plays a non negligible role) gains can be made

Because what I am trying to get at is that this is essentially affirmative action

sudden, rapid change is never a good idea

I don't mean it as flags for minorities are dumber than life is just that they have not done the proper environment to raise their natural IQ and the fact that we just say oh just let them in first and then we'll deal with it

that is literally how you break stuff