This guy is creepy

https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1017588584214228992

Interesting, Looks like Dateline Australia was using some of Tim's Footage of the Proud boys initiation.

https://youtu.be/i7f4b1o6BKM?t=412

I don't think someone is essentially a racist because they are a race realist. Nor is it 'wrong' to use country of origin as race.
Example, near all African (including African Americans) maybe different because of nurturing or nature, it is a grouping that works for the purpose of grouping, for the purpose of either medical/education/whatever. So the 'race' is a valid organiser in general.
I agree with Zach Wood, that the IQ test is only a test of certain aspects, but for the purpose of this point lets say it's a be all and end all intelligence test, so the outcome of whites being smarter than blacks is only racist if you think intelligence is the be all and end all, it's equally as valid to say blacks are superior because they can run faster than whites, or that Tibet people are superior because they can use oxygen more efficiently. So the actual point of differences isn't racist unless someone thinks one aspect is better than the other.
And be it culture or chromosome, race is a good way to identify whatever it is.

I usually use the analogy of dog species, pick any species you want, that species in general will all have a similar medical condition, and similar behaviour. You can teach any species to do anything, but if you want a sniffer dog then a kelpie will struggle, and need different training than a Labrador.
Something that can be overcome because differences are recognised, not taboo

I don't think so either, but I also don't think society at large is anywhere near ready to discuss the subject. Both from those who aren't racist and will think of it as racist, and from those who actually are racist and will feel validated by it.

Maybe, but I think it will invalidate racists. "Okay you're smarter, but they will tear your arms clean off", racists can currently choose what they want to hear and assume superiority across the board, when we all have a superior factor each

Really I feel we have acadamia to blame for having swept it all under the rug and not allowing it to be discussed in a responsible fashion.

No different to sexism IMO, girls and boys will always be different, it has been proven over and over again that school/work/life can cater to either, and life works better for everyone when each sex is doing what it does best

Also I don't think that enough people really grokk how statistics work to not make stupid assumptions based on the data. If you say "Men are on average taller than women" someone else will say "Oh yeah, well Venus Williams is 6'1" and you're only 5'10""

Are people that dumb? I'm sure they just want to argue for the point or arguing

If you need to say 'hashtag not all' then you are talking to an idiot

I think it's a combination of the two in most cases. Cognitive dissonance between "men and woman are equal in every way" and the observable fact

Not saying that all of this discussion should be entirely verboten, just that we're in a shitty position, and now of all times is probably the wrong time to discuss it. But hey, maybe despite inspiring some crazies to fling shit it'll shift the overton window enough to have useful discussion

I think it will never be the right time until people do start talking about it. It will always have that awkward point whenever we start the ball rolling, and by the time the ball is rolling it will be time.

And dickheads will always exist, but lets not let them stop the future of humanity

I pretty much agree, but racial relations feel like the worst they've been since the Rodney King riots, and they've only been seeming to go downhill

People only need to move 1 inch at a time to move 1 mile

But going half a mile back to move forward mile later when your back to a cliff is a poor proposition.

idk I'm just some dude on the internet. I hope things work out however it happens, and if not then at least I've got plenty of popcorn in the pantry

Race relations is bad because only the alt right is talking about race, of course blacks don't like what they are hearing. But if pro black sides talked about it, I'm sure blacks would like to hear why they are better in some ways

Man, I really wish only the alt right was talking about race.

As in race realism...

haha I know

I mean im sure you see more people yelling about it and providing their opinion to the conversation than ever before

Not sure that its worse than previous years, i think its just in the spotlight more

It is definitely more violently volatile I think

It's easier to get a smack in the chops now days, but it hurts less because soybois can't punch

The only thing I wanted to comment about the Zack Wood stuff is that I wonder when he thought this uncivil rhetoric started, because I think it's gone on longer than he would think. It hasn't been just this decade when middle America felt slighted by the elites.

@Dunk Massive you might wanna look at <#463068752725016579>

Not American, but I'm going to guess it started between 1989 and 1994

@Arch-Fiend yeah I know, but I don't want to interrupt good debate, when everyone here already knows to just scroll past my shit

eh we stopped talking in there a few hours ago

just put it there if your were interested in seeing

Where the pics go? I got a pic of two opposite headlines from the 1 journalist

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http://archive.is/rSKaM KIA founder tried to nuke the subreddit

So hes crying that KIA is no longer under his control?

He had admin permissions

No longer

i saw his post, he writes like an insane person