@Dunk Massive you might wanna look at <#463068752725016579>

Not American, but I'm going to guess it started between 1989 and 1994

@Arch-Fiend yeah I know, but I don't want to interrupt good debate, when everyone here already knows to just scroll past my shit

eh we stopped talking in there a few hours ago

just put it there if your were interested in seeing

Where the pics go? I got a pic of two opposite headlines from the 1 journalist

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http://archive.is/rSKaM KIA founder tried to nuke the subreddit

So hes crying that KIA is no longer under his control?

He had admin permissions

No longer

i saw his post, he writes like an insane person

its like reading a long nonsequiter at times

Re: The IQ thing, it's not even "you're smarter" because it's not a baseline or a maximum, it's an average. It's "you're statistically more likely to be more intelligent". One of the hilarious things about using IQ as a reason to boot people of a particular race is that it also applies to a substantial portion of any other racial group you'd want to discuss, which is why the " we need to kick out the low IQ blacks lol" argument always gets walked back as long as you push a little on it

But it does raise a point where if you bring a bunch of people from a poverish society or just dump resources to get them into a rich environment, would it be beneficial or damaging

Dumping resources pretty much never solves the problem

Well it always seems to be a choice

But to the extent that IQ can be influenced (IIRC it's majority nature, but nurture plays a non negligible role) gains can be made

Because what I am trying to get at is that this is essentially affirmative action

sudden, rapid change is never a good idea

I don't mean it as flags for minorities are dumber than life is just that they have not done the proper environment to raise their natural IQ and the fact that we just say oh just let them in first and then we'll deal with it

that is literally how you break stuff

I don't think affirmative action is the way to go

Oh ok

Yeah I think there's a few root societal problems that need to be dealt with

i think that so long as a nation isint suffereing from a preexisting immigration crisis (looking at you europe) then really it doesent need a eugenics or forced exodus policy. in my opinion it doesent even need a "high iq only" immigration policy, i prefer something slightly different, but even so i think its fine to keep the nation you have and work with that rather than try and change the people, better to try and serve the people

in the US, ironically, it seems we have a lower IQ worker deficient

I did a small analytical thinking paper about affirmative action where minorities such as Hispanics and blacks do worse when they are giving affirmative action compared to the others

or at least, a labor job deficient

Well yeah, you never get better results when someone doesn't feel like they have ownership of the results

i agree grenade, though i dont think imported jobs should solve that, i think that when you realize your nation requires a working class, you find that inteligence isint a very good metric to bar people from your country on

Not only that the biggest problem is if you believe that you are smarter than and the rest and got into let's say USC but when you arrive you actually are below average and combined with affirmative action you're even lower than that

well that was my point, if you have open jobs, and not enough people to fill them, you can't wait 15-18 years to fill them, you can't wait maybe even 5 years.

i think america has plenty of stupid people who could work, its just that we put them through college anyway

That sounds like a really bad idea or things that require skilled labor

so if you are gonna be letting people in based on any metric outside general "do you not have a history of killing people", it should be based on qualification for a job that needs to be filled.

Well I mean considering the LAPD half of the applicants fail the background check

i dont think america needs immigration to solve its industry problems

farmers would disagree

and not because they can pay cheap

That's called artificially lowering the cost of production