Message from @Dr.Wol

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2018-08-08 18:28:25 UTC  

so naturally they must be nazi's too

2018-08-08 18:30:07 UTC  

btw with the above conversation from earlier about islam, and various religions being left or right, exactly what parameters are you using to judge these religions as representing one politics vs another?

2018-08-08 18:30:19 UTC  

aka what makes islam right wing?

2018-08-08 18:31:09 UTC  

Well i wasn't part of it, nor know how it went

But i'd wager Islam is right-wing because "Official" right-wing believes in a heirarchy structure, instead of an "all are equal" structure

2018-08-08 18:32:48 UTC  

Is that the official wing usage?

2018-08-08 18:33:09 UTC  

well, in the 1d spectrum, yes

2018-08-08 18:33:29 UTC  

but thats a poor representation, because in the 1d spectrum

Authoritarian and Right-wing are the same

2018-08-08 18:33:32 UTC  

and Liberal and Left are the same

2018-08-08 18:33:42 UTC  

thats the original one where "nazi's" are far right

2018-08-08 18:33:52 UTC  

cuz in reality, Nazi's were socialists, which puts them on the left of the 2D spectrum

2018-08-08 18:37:26 UTC  

Yeah, I don't think the nazis were far right. They were just right wing compared to the German communists

2018-08-08 18:37:43 UTC  

just like everyone is now

2018-08-08 18:38:34 UTC  

i tend to think of them as centrists

2018-08-08 18:38:52 UTC  

Except now they're Bourgeois Communists lmao

2018-08-08 18:40:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/476821935691661333/main-qimg-717503c8fd05f96cb46a829cf8b88446-c.png

2018-08-08 18:40:38 UTC  

This is the common chart used in contemporary political discussion

2018-08-08 18:40:49 UTC  

and as you can see it contradicts itself

2018-08-08 18:41:26 UTC  

what part of a "Fascist, all encompassing and police state that enforces the states goals" is "Government should play a small role in a capitalist system"?

2018-08-08 18:42:07 UTC  

Yeah. Doesn't fascism rely on a dictatorship?

2018-08-08 18:42:37 UTC  

Ex: Mussolini, the original fascist

2018-08-08 18:42:46 UTC  

Nah

2018-08-08 18:43:42 UTC  

Officially, Fascism is basically centrism

But with 1 Party and everyone is a member of the state/military
and 1 absolute undisputed ruler (dictator i guess)

The whole point is that in times of crisis, the state can instantly switch to full authoritarian police state on a whim

2018-08-08 18:43:56 UTC  

Ofc, if you can,

Then why don't you? for personal gain...

2018-08-08 18:44:21 UTC  

Its basically Socialism, prepared for war

2018-08-08 18:44:30 UTC  

Fascism is for the birds.

2018-08-08 18:44:57 UTC  

Okay cool. Thanks for the clarification, Dr.

2018-08-08 18:45:33 UTC  

On paper its supposed to be a system where the State doesn't interfere with people, but CAN in times of crisis, without opposition,

But human nature and power corrupting and all that...

Its just not gonna work out in reality

2018-08-08 18:46:34 UTC  

And its 1 ruler has absolute authority, he outranks the entire government

2018-08-08 18:46:52 UTC  

he is literally given the power of life and death over anyone and everything the state controls

2018-08-08 18:48:25 UTC  

1 Key difference I noticed mind you that separates Communists and Fascists

2018-08-08 18:48:54 UTC  

Communists main selling point is "Equality"
Fascists main selling point is "Glory"

2018-08-08 20:42:46 UTC  

Eric 'Assault with a Deadly Bikelock' Clanton gets off scot free

2018-08-08 20:44:48 UTC  

“ Infowars app still in Google, Apple stores after companies move against other content “ by Paul Murphy on CNN

CNN is upset that Infowars hasn’t completely been banned from the internet. They are attempting to put pressure on Apple and Google to completely ban them. When this article was written, the Infowars app had surpassed the CNN app on Apple taking the number 4 spot. Now Infowars is number 1. CNN can’t handle the competition, and is seeking to ban them in a vain hope they can save their failing network. Sad.

http://archive.today/8EXDK

2018-08-08 21:11:41 UTC  

Prosecutors say Siraj ibn Wahhaj was training children to commit school shootings at his compound in New Mexico, according to court documents: https://sevvie.ltd/news/man-was-training-children-to-commit-school-shootings/

2018-08-08 22:03:06 UTC  
2018-08-08 22:04:33 UTC  

Determined not guilty for basically all charges.

2018-08-08 22:07:26 UTC  

How?

2018-08-08 22:09:02 UTC  

The victim should sue the shit out of him