Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-08-14 18:16:20 UTC  

What points to that conclusion?

2018-08-14 18:18:17 UTC  

At the time of the Civil War the Democrates were the party of the slave owners in the south, after the Civil War, the Republicans tried to push measures to ensure there was no relapse into slavery for newly freed slaves

2018-08-14 18:18:51 UTC  

The KKK was formed by Confederate Vetrens and members of the Democratic Party

2018-08-14 18:18:59 UTC  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan there's some arguments against and it kinda seems to depend regionally but yeah, a large portion of the old school KKK support base were Dems

2018-08-14 18:19:37 UTC  

The political landscape has changed since then

2018-08-14 18:19:50 UTC  

Because there was an uptick in Democrats leaving the Democratic party in the 70s, it's a misunderstood belief that the democrats and the republicans switched places.

2018-08-14 18:21:32 UTC  

What is the best argument against the party switch

2018-08-14 18:21:50 UTC  

One i heard is a majority of dem and repub senators kept their positions

2018-08-14 18:22:01 UTC  

Around the time of the purported switch

2018-08-14 18:22:06 UTC  

Dems have always been racist, but overt racism fell out of fashion so they had to go with covert racism

2018-08-14 18:22:23 UTC  

In part, likely.

2018-08-14 18:22:23 UTC  

And thus, the double think began

2018-08-14 18:22:40 UTC  

So heres the question

2018-08-14 18:22:45 UTC  

Projection.

2018-08-14 18:22:50 UTC  

What is the best argument against the whole party switch myth

2018-08-14 18:23:01 UTC  

It shouldn't be presumed that your average democrat voter is an obvious racist.

2018-08-14 18:23:07 UTC  

And I havent even gotten a proper timeframe

2018-08-14 18:23:09 UTC  

"well be anti-racist but we will tell people they can only think a certain way based on their race! I mean, we already know that is true. Those fithy nigs."

2018-08-14 18:23:13 UTC  

All I hear is, party switched

2018-08-14 18:23:16 UTC  

when I ask when

2018-08-14 18:23:20 UTC  

I dont get answers

2018-08-14 18:24:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/478992403127205900/iu.png

2018-08-14 18:24:54 UTC  

It's really hard to give a full scope of the subtleties of historical US politics in the context of an answer.

2018-08-14 18:25:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/478992632799035403/iu.png

2018-08-14 18:25:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/478992655137767464/iu.png

2018-08-14 18:26:09 UTC  

I am not sure as to how old those images are, only the first had a date and someone's name tied to it

2018-08-14 18:26:29 UTC  

Clymer's a dem according to wikipedia. Geary... Listed as both for some reason

2018-08-14 18:26:50 UTC  

Examination of the source brings me to the Library of Congress

2018-08-14 18:26:58 UTC  

Verifying that it's real.

2018-08-14 18:27:42 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/398858182455459853/478993133003079681/iu.png

2018-08-14 18:28:19 UTC  

The ad? IS there a date in congress?

2018-08-14 18:28:51 UTC  

I seen that. I should see it again

2018-08-14 18:32:06 UTC  

Blame Nixon,

2018-08-14 18:34:28 UTC  

Also look up Strom Thurman, leader of the Dixie Democrat movement

2018-08-14 18:34:29 UTC  

I think that's actually well cited and the best rebuttal that can be made

2018-08-14 18:34:34 UTC  

I think it would be cool if Tim interviewed Denis. They both talk about the cultural civil war a lot.

2018-08-14 18:34:45 UTC  

It's far easier to prove something DID happen if it did than to prove something DIDN'T happen if it didn't.

2018-08-14 18:36:04 UTC  

If you're trying to prove that the switch happened, you'd point to the current fact that confederate states tend to lean right.

2018-08-14 18:37:15 UTC  

The real switch is that the Democrats are still racist but now they support minorities instead of whites.