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2018-09-11 01:01:23 UTC  

Red state obviously leans right, but the story is so silly as to be unbelievable, but I've heard this multiple places and believe it is true.

2018-09-11 01:42:36 UTC  

I'm obviously biased but I wouldn't put anything past the democrats. The ends justify the means in their mind. For the low-level footsoldiers the ends is some nebulous utopia and for the higher-ups it's naked power. In either case a little voter fraud is a small price to pay.

2018-09-11 02:47:31 UTC  

Digging a bit deeper, it's not just blue-leaning districts (though the article source might give you that impression). Still was a famous tendency of machine politics to have all sorts of screwy voter numbers.

2018-09-11 08:25:59 UTC  

A bit late, but here are the election results (final counting is still ongoing)

144- Red-Greens
28, **Vänsterpartiet - socialism, environmentalism, feminism, eurosceptic**
101, *Socialdemokraterna - social democracy, feminism*
15, **Miljöpartiet - environmentalism, green, feminism**

142- the Alliance
30, *Centerpartiet - social liberalism, green, liberal feminism*
19, **Liberalerna - social liberalism, liberal feminism**
70, *Moderaterna - liberal conservatism*
23, **Kristdemokraterna - social conservatism**
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63, *Sverigedemokraterna - national* & *social conservatism,* *nationalism,* eurosceptic _

2018-09-11 08:27:34 UTC  

Hmm

2018-09-11 08:28:43 UTC  

So what exactly is it that's so extraordinary about this election? Is it not normally so close, or are new parties gaining more steam, or what?

2018-09-11 08:30:57 UTC  

One thing is that it's very close, yeah - and there's a party no one wants to work with inbetween that has become very large.

2018-09-11 08:32:36 UTC  

After the last election the two alliances decided to make a deal to avoid working with the Sweden democrats, letting the Green party & the Social democrats sit in government.

2018-09-11 08:33:25 UTC  

Now the Alliance parties want the Prime Minister to resign and would refuse to cooperate with him in government. He and his party, however, wants to stay.

2018-09-11 08:34:12 UTC  

The Sweden democrats are still open to work with just about anybody, left or right.

2018-09-11 08:34:50 UTC  

Thank you.

2018-09-11 08:35:53 UTC  

The Greens were almost kicked out of the parliament aswell - you need atleast 4% of the votes and they received 4,3%.

2018-09-11 10:55:20 UTC  

“ Realizing you’re a pedophile can make you want to kill yourself” by Paul Willis on Vice

In an attempt to normalize pedophilia Vice quotes a professor calling it a “ sexual preference “. Then they attempt to demonize those that stigmatize pedophiles by blaming them for pushing these degenerates into depression .

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2018-09-11 11:05:20 UTC  

I do have some sympathy for them. The ones that don't do anything about it that is. Whether or not it is a sexual preference doesn't really matter. Most serial killers are born broken and that is excepted, we don't feel sorry for them, we lock them in a cage until they die. It's the same thing in my eyes.

2018-09-11 11:08:25 UTC  

I dont get why he said "there's nowhere to go with it". If someone will discover he is a pedophile but didnt hurt anyone yet, he should seek specialised help. If that person choose not to get help, and then comit a crime why i should have any kind of sympathy for them?

2018-09-11 11:09:01 UTC  

But I agree that being wrongly accused of being pedophile is probably one of the worst thing that can happen to someone

2018-09-11 11:10:58 UTC  

seek help in a society that would immediately shun you?

2018-09-11 11:11:34 UTC  

Paedophiles should seek private psychiatric advice

2018-09-11 11:11:36 UTC  

I think articles like this are attempting to frame our natural reaction to pedophiles as the problem. Society doesn’t have the problem. The people that want to fuck children do.

2018-09-11 11:11:46 UTC  

"Specialised help". Im not talking about going to your coworker and saying "Hey man, i think im pedo"

2018-09-11 11:12:09 UTC  

where do you go to ask "hey, where can i get help with my pedophilic urges" that would not immediately result in the police being called and you ending up on a list mandating you stay several miles away from any place for children?

2018-09-11 11:12:18 UTC  

Normalisation of paedophilia is terrible, yeah. But if they're gonna stop themselves BEFORE they do a crime? That's admirable, that they recognise it's a problem and want to deal with it

2018-09-11 11:12:32 UTC  

"I have murderous urges" wouldn't throw you in jail

2018-09-11 11:12:39 UTC  

Actually being violent would

2018-09-11 11:13:00 UTC  

no, but would anyone still like to be near you?

2018-09-11 11:13:10 UTC  

and we treat child rapists as even worse than murders

2018-09-11 11:13:23 UTC  

If someone will get mental breakdown, start hearing morderous voices, and that person choose not to seek help. Should i also have sympathy fot them If they kill someone?

2018-09-11 11:13:34 UTC  

even prison inmates will want to kill you.

2018-09-11 11:13:54 UTC  

It like trying to frame people’s negative reactions to people who fantasize about killing people. Yeah. You are stigmatized. You’re also a dangerous lunatic that nobody wants to be around. Regardless if you act on it or not. Sorry that makes you sad Ted Bundy

2018-09-11 11:14:32 UTC  

but still, i don't see signs for the "pedophile rehabilitation center" anywhere. So while yes, they should be able to get help. But currently there is no real safe way to ask. so yeah, there is no where to go.

2018-09-11 11:16:05 UTC  

we treat pedophilia as a society as feminists treated me too.

2018-09-11 11:16:14 UTC  

look at Gunn.

2018-09-11 11:16:24 UTC  

Ofc there are no places like that, that doesnt mean you cannot seek help of psychiatrist.

2018-09-11 11:16:49 UTC  

and what reason would you believe they are different than everyone else around you on this subject?

2018-09-11 11:17:06 UTC  

don't think like a third party, imagine being them

2018-09-11 11:17:44 UTC  

one word to anyone around you and they will be gone, shun you, believe you acted on your urges even if you didn't, or watched CP which is a crime and therefore you are a criminal

2018-09-11 11:18:09 UTC  

they might even call the police on you, accusing you of these things so police will be searching all over your house.

2018-09-11 11:18:22 UTC  

and you wonder why they feel like they have no where to go?

2018-09-11 11:18:46 UTC  

like you are going to trust a complete stranger only interested in your money to keep a secret like that?

2018-09-11 11:19:15 UTC  

its like going to a psychiatrist to confess a murder in their mind