Message from @Iakovos

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2019-05-24 00:07:22 UTC  

I asked @Deleted User if a Christian, who has turned to atheism, return to Christianity.

2019-05-24 00:07:28 UTC  

I was a true atheist.

2019-05-24 00:07:36 UTC  

There is a feeling in the pit of their stomach that they hide from

2019-05-24 00:07:42 UTC  

It's the unpaid bill they have ignored

2019-05-24 00:07:47 UTC  

The incomplete homework

2019-05-24 00:07:52 UTC  

The outstanding arrest warrant

2019-05-24 00:08:01 UTC  

The unreleased shit

2019-05-24 00:08:04 UTC  

It will come due

2019-05-24 00:08:26 UTC  

Hebrews 6:4

2019-05-24 00:08:28 UTC  

But they choose to deny its very existence, remember that the evidence of God is not in the Bible or the Church, it is outside of both

2019-05-24 00:09:03 UTC  

It is the world. God's existence can be proven simply by logic and reason.

2019-05-24 00:09:26 UTC  

So when an atheist says he doesn't believe, he is usually lying.

2019-05-24 00:09:40 UTC  

So, I truly didn't believe.

2019-05-24 00:09:47 UTC  

Or did you just deny it?

2019-05-24 00:10:59 UTC  

I'm not sure, but I denied Christ, the sanctification of my baptism, and the existence of sin and God.

2019-05-24 00:11:38 UTC  

But that doesn't mean you truly knew there is no God. You lied to everyone, even to yourself

2019-05-24 00:11:46 UTC  

In denial of the truth

2019-05-24 00:12:00 UTC  

For your own reasons which aren't important to the conversation

2019-05-24 00:12:15 UTC  

But man knows. The law of God is written in our hearts.

2019-05-24 00:13:22 UTC  

And? It says that once I have fallen away it's impossible to renew me again to repentance. What does that mean?

2019-05-24 00:14:22 UTC  
2019-05-24 00:16:31 UTC  

Read Hebrews 12:16-17

2019-05-24 00:17:54 UTC  

RIP

2019-05-24 00:18:08 UTC  

@Iakovos 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slow concerning His promise, as some count slowness. But He is patient with us, because He does not want any to perish, but all to come to repentance.

2019-05-24 00:18:33 UTC  

Hebrews 12:16-17
Hebrews 6:4

2019-05-24 00:19:25 UTC  

Read everything

2019-05-24 00:19:29 UTC  

Not individual verses

2019-05-24 00:19:41 UTC  

Esau begged forgiveness but was not sincere

2019-05-24 00:19:45 UTC  

That's what it's talking about

2019-05-24 00:20:02 UTC  

I'm sorry, but then doing it again, you do not receive absolution

2019-05-24 00:22:24 UTC  

It clearly says that once a Christian falls away there is no coming back.

2019-05-24 00:23:22 UTC  

* [12:15–17] Esau serves as an example in two ways: his profane attitude illustrates the danger of apostasy, and his inability to secure a blessing afterward illustrates the impossibility of repenting after falling away (see Heb 6:4–6).

2019-05-24 00:23:27 UTC  

This is from a commentary.

2019-05-24 00:25:03 UTC  

Ask the priest then if you don't like my answer.

2019-05-24 00:25:47 UTC  

James 5:19-20 My brothers, if anyone among you wanders from the truth and someone brings him back, let him know that whoever brings back a sinner from his wandering will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.

2019-05-24 00:26:34 UTC  

Psalm 145:14-16 The LORD helps the fallen and lifts those bent beneath their loads. The eyes of all look to you in hope; you give them their food as they need it. When you open your hand, you satisfy the hunger and thirst of every living thing.

2019-05-24 00:27:47 UTC  

1 Corinthians 10:13 No temptation has overtaken you that is unusual for human beings. But God is faithful, and he will not allow you to be tempted beyond your strength. Instead, along with the temptation he will also provide a way out, so that you may be able to endure it.

2019-05-24 00:27:48 UTC  
2019-05-24 00:28:09 UTC  

You may have "fallen" as you say. But god is always there waiting for you to come back

2019-05-24 03:44:36 UTC  

@Iakovos right here my nigga

2019-05-25 00:42:58 UTC  

@Deleted User do orthodox believe Mary was sinless? Or an eternal virgin? That she never sinned?