I come from Both, Sagif

Of Viking and Roman lineage.

Does that mean I am half emporer half cuck?

Or half man-slaughtering viking and half ww2 joke

The latter unfortunately

Romans arent Italians

Lol

Uh, yeah they are. Not all Italians are Roman, but the vast majority of Romans are now Italian

???

wtf

You do realize that Iberian citizens at the time were also Roman citizens, for example

Plus, add in all the barbarian invasions that you had even in Italy, and what you considered "Roman" is gone

Plus, the Byzantine Empire, that spoke Greek, had a Greek background and followed the Orthodox Christianity also considered themselves "Romans"

Most of the barbarians kept themselves as a separate elite class when they conquered Rome.

Roman citizenship is not equal to ethnicity. Saint Paul was a Jew, but with Roman citizenship

They bred with each other, my friend

The Goths, Lombards, and Normans were small groups in the area and did very little interbreeding so no, and you are not my friend.

Generally keep these saved for discussions about Romans and Italians.

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Interesting. Ancient italians are largely the same as modern italians. From the first picture, the only other place with this genetic preservation is in Finland?

In Europe yes

The Japanese are very homogenous too

Yeah I knew the Japanese were.

What has diluted the rest of Europe? Africa, Middle East?

It's not necessarily non Europeans, to my knowledge, but simply other types of Europeans.

Europeans from Scandinavia aren't identical to Europeans from Spain. There's been some degree of interbreeding

France ruled Britain for such a long time that the official language there was French. They mixed together of course

Germany has grown, and shrank, many times

The only thing that this confirms is that the gene pool within the Italian peninsula has remained consistent, largely thanks to the Mediterranean and the Alps. Other countries do not have these barriers and thus mix with each other more easily and you can see certain traces.

When the Turks came, they wiped out entire villages. So no doubt a lot of people moved west if they heard trouble was coming

Royalty however, they are all mixed up. The English monarchy are German

Granted you'd find more traces of Uralic and Turkic in Eastern Europe gene pools but despite memes those influences are negligible.

They're all Europeans but varying types.

I meant refugees

Easterners fleeing west and settling there eventually

No, you're absolutely right. I was only adding in to the original question about dilution about non Europeans.

Yeah the Muslims never made it into the heartland for any measurable length of time

Even in Spain they didn't breed much.