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Interesting. Ancient italians are largely the same as modern italians. From the first picture, the only other place with this genetic preservation is in Finland?
In Europe yes
The Japanese are very homogenous too
Yeah I knew the Japanese were.
What has diluted the rest of Europe? Africa, Middle East?
It's not necessarily non Europeans, to my knowledge, but simply other types of Europeans.
Europeans from Scandinavia aren't identical to Europeans from Spain. There's been some degree of interbreeding
France ruled Britain for such a long time that the official language there was French. They mixed together of course
Germany has grown, and shrank, many times
The only thing that this confirms is that the gene pool within the Italian peninsula has remained consistent, largely thanks to the Mediterranean and the Alps. Other countries do not have these barriers and thus mix with each other more easily and you can see certain traces.
When the Turks came, they wiped out entire villages. So no doubt a lot of people moved west if they heard trouble was coming
Royalty however, they are all mixed up. The English monarchy are German
Granted you'd find more traces of Uralic and Turkic in Eastern Europe gene pools but despite memes those influences are negligible.
They're all Europeans but varying types.
I meant refugees
Easterners fleeing west and settling there eventually
No, you're absolutely right. I was only adding in to the original question about dilution about non Europeans.
Yeah the Muslims never made it into the heartland for any measurable length of time
Hardly at all.
Catholics aren't allowed to marry non-Christians, and in that time there was only Catholicism. Muslims even today, the men can only marry Muslims, Jews, and Christians, but the women can only marry other Muslims
And when a minority ethnic group rules over a majority of another ethnicity, very rarely if ever will they intermarry
Like the Qing Empire, who aren't Han Chinese.
Such was also the case of the Goths who conquered Rome
Not likely that a Roman is gonna meet someone online or marry a foreign girl on vacation
ah okay, so it's really just the rest of Europe has all mixed together
More likely in the modern era yeah
Today's Englishman doesn't care if you're a Pict, Saxon, etc
In the old days it wasn't that common for someone to even leave his village in his lifetime
And these tribes did not often like each other
@Andrules For the record, it's unlikely that _all_ of Europe is mixed together. For clarification, it's more likely that you'll find bits of the ancient Celts strewn about throughout Europe, with spatterings of various German and Slavic tribes about. Chances are the mixing will be from someone next to them. Like people having Polish genes in Germany, or French in the Netherlands. Not going to be finding the Norse in Spain, for instance. My pictures were just saying that Italy has not mixed effectively at all, with fellow Europeans or otherwise.
Yeah that's what I was thinking. Didn't mean to imply that, like, French were now equally parts the rest of Europe.
Okay, just wanted to be clear because I know I horribly phrase things a lot.
It’s alright I do the same 🤣
I end up talking too simply. Most of the people I deal with in real life are average intelligence at best. So I’m used to simple and general terms.
How is this Australian politics ?
Australia is so relevant
KEK
Australia is a weird place. The echoes of Europe are ringing there at the moment, but it used to be a really cool, free place until '91