Message from @Mimi

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2018-11-16 11:03:32 UTC  

You can think that, but in reality you're very wrong. You've basically ignored me pointing out the actual definition of my terms, and continued to point the finger of 'emotional nuance'

2018-11-16 11:03:36 UTC  

Anyway. This is the closest one can get to winning an Internet argument, so let me just declare myself the winner.

2018-11-16 11:03:39 UTC  

it doesn't mean civiliians specifically, its excessive killing in a short time frame.

2018-11-16 11:04:09 UTC  

Haunted, usually it's on civilians though, or disarmed soldiers. people who can't fight back.

2018-11-16 11:04:32 UTC  

He who declares himself the victor is usually the prideful, ignorant one.

2018-11-16 11:04:43 UTC  

well yes, but the definition of the word isn't that focused.

2018-11-16 11:05:12 UTC  

you could indiscrimanately massacre an entire army.

2018-11-16 11:05:25 UTC  

Would you not agree though, that Wounded Knee was a massacre, and to undermine the gravity of what happened that day is historically faulty?

2018-11-16 11:06:05 UTC  

idk what wounded knee is

2018-11-16 11:06:25 UTC  

a bunch of native american women, men and children were shot down during a conflict with the US Army.

2018-11-16 11:06:39 UTC  

some were warriors, yes, but there were also civilians.

2018-11-16 11:07:36 UTC  

without knowing specifics i can't say

2018-11-16 11:08:08 UTC  

you kinda have to research these things. But yes, it is dubbed, by historians, as a massacre.

2018-11-16 11:08:15 UTC  

Just like the valentines day massacre.

2018-11-16 11:08:31 UTC  

only on a much larger scale, of course.

2018-11-16 11:08:46 UTC  

well, if the US army went in and shot everyone without any care i'd call it a massacre.

2018-11-16 11:09:00 UTC  

I find it funny how Undead Mockingbird shut down any form of constructive argument and declared victory despite his faulty claims against me.

2018-11-16 11:09:06 UTC  

also that's pretty much what it turned into.

2018-11-16 11:09:29 UTC  

soldiers were ordered to open fire on defenseless women and children.

2018-11-16 11:09:56 UTC  

estimated 300 out of 350 of the original tribe were killed.

2018-11-16 11:10:36 UTC  

it's likely the other fifty or so were able-bodied people who fled when they saw entire families being mown down.

2018-11-16 11:12:06 UTC  

breifly looking it up, yeah i'd say its a massacre, but i'd als agree that massacre is pretty borad term that does include a lot of war situations.

2018-11-16 11:12:19 UTC  

maybe not so much under modern warfare, but before all the tech definitely.

2018-11-16 11:12:24 UTC  

Yeah because soldiers do horrible things in war.

2018-11-16 11:12:43 UTC  

ESPECIALLY in the past like in wars like Vietnam and the world wars.

2018-11-16 11:12:57 UTC  

world war 1 is probably the best example

2018-11-16 11:13:04 UTC  

yeah they fled, were hunted down, and slaughtered.

2018-11-16 11:13:11 UTC  

How is that, by definition, not a massacre?

2018-11-16 11:13:42 UTC  

that sounds like its going over the line into genocide

2018-11-16 11:14:28 UTC  

Yeah, pretty much.

2018-11-16 11:15:20 UTC  

Though native american tribe structure is usually that there are multiple tribes of different types of people.... so while the tribe may have been basically killed off, they're PEOPLE probably have 3-4 other tribes.

2018-11-16 11:17:28 UTC  

yeah, i'm not sure if it would actually be genocide, but it sounds like its tp-toeing the line, but looking it up it looks like it was more paranoia wanting to crush a rebellion before it happens then systematic slaughtering of people.

2018-11-16 11:19:56 UTC  

Yeah... I wouldn't really call it a genocide.

2018-11-16 11:20:56 UTC  

I'm a big history buff and I hate it when people twist history to their political agenda. I thought the right would be free from that, but one of the so-called heroes of the right, steve crowder, has proven himself a liar as well.

2018-11-16 11:23:34 UTC  

that's politics for you.

2018-11-16 11:23:44 UTC  

just, jesus fucking christ.

2018-11-16 11:23:59 UTC  

I thought of all people he would be honest. but then he pairs with those scumbags PragerU?

2018-11-16 11:26:05 UTC  

i bet you its confirmation bias.

2018-11-16 11:26:34 UTC  

probably. Those people at PragerU are pretty fuckin' stupid sometimes.

2018-11-16 11:26:40 UTC  

i dont really follow him, the stuff i have come across seem okay

2018-11-16 11:26:54 UTC  

i guess most of the bullshit is in teh podcasts stuff