well, if the US army went in and shot everyone without any care i'd call it a massacre.

I find it funny how Undead Mockingbird shut down any form of constructive argument and declared victory despite his faulty claims against me.

also that's pretty much what it turned into.

soldiers were ordered to open fire on defenseless women and children.

estimated 300 out of 350 of the original tribe were killed.

it's likely the other fifty or so were able-bodied people who fled when they saw entire families being mown down.

breifly looking it up, yeah i'd say its a massacre, but i'd als agree that massacre is pretty borad term that does include a lot of war situations.

maybe not so much under modern warfare, but before all the tech definitely.

Yeah because soldiers do horrible things in war.

ESPECIALLY in the past like in wars like Vietnam and the world wars.

world war 1 is probably the best example

yeah they fled, were hunted down, and slaughtered.

How is that, by definition, not a massacre?

that sounds like its going over the line into genocide

Yeah, pretty much.

Though native american tribe structure is usually that there are multiple tribes of different types of people.... so while the tribe may have been basically killed off, they're PEOPLE probably have 3-4 other tribes.

yeah, i'm not sure if it would actually be genocide, but it sounds like its tp-toeing the line, but looking it up it looks like it was more paranoia wanting to crush a rebellion before it happens then systematic slaughtering of people.

Yeah... I wouldn't really call it a genocide.

I'm a big history buff and I hate it when people twist history to their political agenda. I thought the right would be free from that, but one of the so-called heroes of the right, steve crowder, has proven himself a liar as well.

that's politics for you.

just, jesus fucking christ.

I thought of all people he would be honest. but then he pairs with those scumbags PragerU?

i bet you its confirmation bias.

probably. Those people at PragerU are pretty fuckin' stupid sometimes.

i dont really follow him, the stuff i have come across seem okay

i guess most of the bullshit is in teh podcasts stuff

also yeah, pragerU likes to put religious conservatism before reality a fair bit.

soem stuff seemed okay to me though

some of it.

but it's completely outweighed by the founder pushing his religious ideology into the videos like it's fact.

this pretty much goes for most things tbh.

i've been finding it hard to find any sources that don't do stupid shit like that.

Timcast is one of them so far.

right, but tim is also obviously fighting himself half the time to keep his bias away

yeah of course, we all have bias.

yeah, timcast is mostly just commentary on news happenings though

yeah of course.

i meant places more like pragerU that try to educate

ah...

all i want is just a break down of the data

no politics, and all the people i had found before for that have pretty much gone dead.