Message from @Mimi

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2018-11-16 11:00:51 UTC  

wasn't expecting that embed to have that image.. i'll fix it

2018-11-16 11:00:58 UTC  

massacre (v): "deliberately and violently kill (a large number of people)."

2018-11-16 11:01:16 UTC  

That definition is so broad as to encompass virtually any war.

2018-11-16 11:01:19 UTC  

Just looking at what happened at wounded knee would technically classify this as a massacre, just as massacres happened in vietnam, and all the way back to the times of rome.

2018-11-16 11:01:36 UTC  

So using the term war or battle instead of massacre is a distinction of emotional nuance.

2018-11-16 11:01:45 UTC  

which is why I found you a more concise and appropriate term.

2018-11-16 11:02:01 UTC  

What you appear to criticize him on is the use of a term with the wrong emotional nuance. You appear to have no factual leg to stand on whatsoever.

2018-11-16 11:02:02 UTC  

It's purposeful slaughtering of civilians

2018-11-16 11:02:24 UTC  

yet for some reason, no matter how many times I point said difference out, you refuse to even acknowledge it.

2018-11-16 11:02:29 UTC  

I made my point and I see no new argument.

2018-11-16 11:02:36 UTC  

Sorry, I am done.

2018-11-16 11:02:38 UTC  

that's the difference.

2018-11-16 11:02:45 UTC  

I think I won.

2018-11-16 11:03:32 UTC  

You can think that, but in reality you're very wrong. You've basically ignored me pointing out the actual definition of my terms, and continued to point the finger of 'emotional nuance'

2018-11-16 11:03:36 UTC  

Anyway. This is the closest one can get to winning an Internet argument, so let me just declare myself the winner.

2018-11-16 11:03:39 UTC  

it doesn't mean civiliians specifically, its excessive killing in a short time frame.

2018-11-16 11:04:09 UTC  

Haunted, usually it's on civilians though, or disarmed soldiers. people who can't fight back.

2018-11-16 11:04:32 UTC  

He who declares himself the victor is usually the prideful, ignorant one.

2018-11-16 11:04:43 UTC  

well yes, but the definition of the word isn't that focused.

2018-11-16 11:05:12 UTC  

you could indiscrimanately massacre an entire army.

2018-11-16 11:05:25 UTC  

Would you not agree though, that Wounded Knee was a massacre, and to undermine the gravity of what happened that day is historically faulty?

2018-11-16 11:06:05 UTC  

idk what wounded knee is

2018-11-16 11:06:25 UTC  

a bunch of native american women, men and children were shot down during a conflict with the US Army.

2018-11-16 11:06:39 UTC  

some were warriors, yes, but there were also civilians.

2018-11-16 11:07:36 UTC  

without knowing specifics i can't say

2018-11-16 11:08:08 UTC  

you kinda have to research these things. But yes, it is dubbed, by historians, as a massacre.

2018-11-16 11:08:15 UTC  

Just like the valentines day massacre.

2018-11-16 11:08:31 UTC  

only on a much larger scale, of course.

2018-11-16 11:08:46 UTC  

well, if the US army went in and shot everyone without any care i'd call it a massacre.

2018-11-16 11:09:00 UTC  

I find it funny how Undead Mockingbird shut down any form of constructive argument and declared victory despite his faulty claims against me.

2018-11-16 11:09:06 UTC  

also that's pretty much what it turned into.

2018-11-16 11:09:29 UTC  

soldiers were ordered to open fire on defenseless women and children.

2018-11-16 11:09:56 UTC  

estimated 300 out of 350 of the original tribe were killed.

2018-11-16 11:10:36 UTC  

it's likely the other fifty or so were able-bodied people who fled when they saw entire families being mown down.

2018-11-16 11:12:06 UTC  

breifly looking it up, yeah i'd say its a massacre, but i'd als agree that massacre is pretty borad term that does include a lot of war situations.

2018-11-16 11:12:19 UTC  

maybe not so much under modern warfare, but before all the tech definitely.

2018-11-16 11:12:24 UTC  

Yeah because soldiers do horrible things in war.

2018-11-16 11:12:43 UTC  

ESPECIALLY in the past like in wars like Vietnam and the world wars.

2018-11-16 11:12:57 UTC  

world war 1 is probably the best example

2018-11-16 11:13:04 UTC  

yeah they fled, were hunted down, and slaughtered.

2018-11-16 11:13:11 UTC  

How is that, by definition, not a massacre?