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2018-07-09 16:04:22 UTC  

That's literally the only thing I'm saying.

2018-07-09 16:05:03 UTC  

You wouldn't think great men would actually try to make people do right by crafting a religion that helps a society grow and thrive 🤔

2018-07-09 16:05:11 UTC  

Not everyone in power is evil.

2018-07-09 16:05:20 UTC  

Sometimes men do great things.

2018-07-09 16:05:29 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-07-09 16:05:37 UTC  

However. Islam is a shitty religion.

2018-07-09 16:05:46 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-09 16:06:01 UTC  

Only because of cultural differences. I do believe women deserve rights.

2018-07-09 16:06:05 UTC  

Islam is also inauthentic because of glaring self contradictions

2018-07-09 16:06:42 UTC  

Same with the existence of the judeo-christian god. Omnibenevolence cannot co-exist with omniscience and omnipotence.

2018-07-09 16:07:04 UTC  

If he creates people knowing they are going to hell, why create them?

2018-07-09 16:07:14 UTC  

Also negates the existence of free will.

2018-07-09 16:07:21 UTC  

So i refuse to believe in a god.

2018-07-09 16:07:23 UTC  

People decide to go to hell

2018-07-09 16:07:40 UTC  

But he knowa they are going to hell regardless

2018-07-09 16:07:43 UTC  

Knows*

2018-07-09 16:07:51 UTC  

I don't know about C of C where you came from, but my denomination does not teach predestination

2018-07-09 16:08:15 UTC  

Neither did mine.

2018-07-09 16:08:22 UTC  

And that is why I left the chutch

2018-07-09 16:08:26 UTC  

Church*

2018-07-09 16:08:35 UTC  

I can take the easy way out and say, it's something I can't explain

2018-07-09 16:08:37 UTC  

I read a book on Nihilism.

2018-07-09 16:09:01 UTC  

Neisztche explained a lot, despite being a madman.

2018-07-09 16:09:05 UTC  

Reality is that we all struggle with some questions we can't understand the answers to, questions that only make more questions

2018-07-09 16:09:47 UTC  

I have to accept that I don't have to know or understand everything in the universe and in fact it would be impossible

2018-07-09 16:10:25 UTC  

And my refusal to believe in an omni-powerful god helps me understand the universe better. There might be something out there, I don't know nor care. But I do not think it is omnipotent.

2018-07-09 16:10:37 UTC  

So I just walk back to the beginning. Everything came from something. Nothing is self creating. There is nothing in existence that willed itself into existence from non existence (you can see the logic here)

2018-07-09 16:10:57 UTC  

Then how did God create himself?

2018-07-09 16:11:01 UTC  

Or was he always there?

2018-07-09 16:11:29 UTC  

If he was always there, the universe can *technically* create itself by the same logic.

2018-07-09 16:12:00 UTC  

The only way to break that loop is that God is, well, God.

2018-07-09 16:12:23 UTC  

I see where you're coming from. However, I will have to disagree.

2018-07-09 16:12:32 UTC  

I can see how that would make sense.

2018-07-09 16:12:34 UTC  

Because if there is no God, then you would still have to accept that ultimately the universe created itself

2018-07-09 16:13:32 UTC  

Or, if you believe in God, it means a being, with possibly other beings, created themselves and became perfect represenations of how intelligent conscious being are to act like.

2018-07-09 16:14:10 UTC  

Sorry for typos btw

2018-07-09 16:14:15 UTC  

On my cellphone xD

2018-07-09 16:14:37 UTC  

But how can something self create, basically to make itself exist before it even existed? It would be like you writing a letter before you were even conceived

2018-07-09 16:15:04 UTC  

And it's like producing a child without having sex. The child being God.

2018-07-09 16:15:25 UTC  

The origins of our universe will quite possibly forever be a mystery.

2018-07-09 16:15:29 UTC  

And it should be that way