Message from @Iakovos

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2018-07-09 15:20:42 UTC  

But not all religions are equal. Islam is used for and by pedophiles and slavers. That's why it was created

2018-07-09 15:21:45 UTC  

But I don't see how "thou shalt not steal" is just some evil dictator making up a religion to control people

2018-07-09 15:58:02 UTC  

be kind

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2018-07-09 15:59:48 UTC  

@Deleted User thou shall not steal is also in Islam

2018-07-09 16:00:28 UTC  

You might think it's just a cultural difference considering the Abbassid empire fell apart due to infighting.

2018-07-09 16:00:40 UTC  

Muslims, just like Christians, were never truly united.

2018-07-09 16:00:51 UTC  

Even the Holy Roman Empire fell apart after some time.

2018-07-09 16:01:22 UTC  

@Rothguard coneheads are real

2018-07-09 16:01:43 UTC  

The HRE was not holy, not roman, and not an empire

2018-07-09 16:02:42 UTC  

But when you point out examples of human failure, are they actually following the principles of their faith?

2018-07-09 16:03:02 UTC  

If a Christian steals, does it mean his religion commands him to steal?

2018-07-09 16:03:38 UTC  

If a muslims steals, does it mean his religion commands him to steal?

2018-07-09 16:04:04 UTC  

Religion is simply a guideline for morals.

2018-07-09 16:04:22 UTC  

That's literally the only thing I'm saying.

2018-07-09 16:05:03 UTC  

You wouldn't think great men would actually try to make people do right by crafting a religion that helps a society grow and thrive 🤔

2018-07-09 16:05:11 UTC  

Not everyone in power is evil.

2018-07-09 16:05:20 UTC  

Sometimes men do great things.

2018-07-09 16:05:29 UTC  

Fair enough

2018-07-09 16:05:37 UTC  

However. Islam is a shitty religion.

2018-07-09 16:05:46 UTC  

Agreed

2018-07-09 16:06:01 UTC  

Only because of cultural differences. I do believe women deserve rights.

2018-07-09 16:06:05 UTC  

Islam is also inauthentic because of glaring self contradictions

2018-07-09 16:06:42 UTC  

Same with the existence of the judeo-christian god. Omnibenevolence cannot co-exist with omniscience and omnipotence.

2018-07-09 16:07:04 UTC  

If he creates people knowing they are going to hell, why create them?

2018-07-09 16:07:14 UTC  

Also negates the existence of free will.

2018-07-09 16:07:21 UTC  

So i refuse to believe in a god.

2018-07-09 16:07:23 UTC  

People decide to go to hell

2018-07-09 16:07:40 UTC  

But he knowa they are going to hell regardless

2018-07-09 16:07:43 UTC  

Knows*

2018-07-09 16:07:51 UTC  

I don't know about C of C where you came from, but my denomination does not teach predestination

2018-07-09 16:08:15 UTC  

Neither did mine.

2018-07-09 16:08:22 UTC  

And that is why I left the chutch

2018-07-09 16:08:26 UTC  

Church*

2018-07-09 16:08:35 UTC  

I can take the easy way out and say, it's something I can't explain

2018-07-09 16:08:37 UTC  

I read a book on Nihilism.

2018-07-09 16:09:01 UTC  

Neisztche explained a lot, despite being a madman.

2018-07-09 16:09:05 UTC  

Reality is that we all struggle with some questions we can't understand the answers to, questions that only make more questions

2018-07-09 16:09:47 UTC  

I have to accept that I don't have to know or understand everything in the universe and in fact it would be impossible

2018-07-09 16:10:25 UTC  

And my refusal to believe in an omni-powerful god helps me understand the universe better. There might be something out there, I don't know nor care. But I do not think it is omnipotent.

2018-07-09 16:10:37 UTC  

So I just walk back to the beginning. Everything came from something. Nothing is self creating. There is nothing in existence that willed itself into existence from non existence (you can see the logic here)

2018-07-09 16:10:57 UTC  

Then how did God create himself?