Muslims, just like Christians, were never truly united.

Even the Holy Roman Empire fell apart after some time.

@Rothguard coneheads are real

The HRE was not holy, not roman, and not an empire

But when you point out examples of human failure, are they actually following the principles of their faith?

If a Christian steals, does it mean his religion commands him to steal?

If a muslims steals, does it mean his religion commands him to steal?

Religion is simply a guideline for morals.

That's literally the only thing I'm saying.

You wouldn't think great men would actually try to make people do right by crafting a religion that helps a society grow and thrive 🤔

Not everyone in power is evil.

Sometimes men do great things.

Fair enough

However. Islam is a shitty religion.

Agreed

Only because of cultural differences. I do believe women deserve rights.

Islam is also inauthentic because of glaring self contradictions

Same with the existence of the judeo-christian god. Omnibenevolence cannot co-exist with omniscience and omnipotence.

If he creates people knowing they are going to hell, why create them?

Also negates the existence of free will.

So i refuse to believe in a god.

People decide to go to hell

But he knowa they are going to hell regardless

Knows*

I don't know about C of C where you came from, but my denomination does not teach predestination

Neither did mine.

And that is why I left the chutch

Church*

I can take the easy way out and say, it's something I can't explain

I read a book on Nihilism.

Neisztche explained a lot, despite being a madman.

Reality is that we all struggle with some questions we can't understand the answers to, questions that only make more questions

I have to accept that I don't have to know or understand everything in the universe and in fact it would be impossible

And my refusal to believe in an omni-powerful god helps me understand the universe better. There might be something out there, I don't know nor care. But I do not think it is omnipotent.

So I just walk back to the beginning. Everything came from something. Nothing is self creating. There is nothing in existence that willed itself into existence from non existence (you can see the logic here)

Then how did God create himself?

Or was he always there?

If he was always there, the universe can *technically* create itself by the same logic.

The only way to break that loop is that God is, well, God.

I see where you're coming from. However, I will have to disagree.

I can see how that would make sense.