Message from @Iakovos
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I can take the easy way out and say, it's something I can't explain
I read a book on Nihilism.
Neisztche explained a lot, despite being a madman.
Reality is that we all struggle with some questions we can't understand the answers to, questions that only make more questions
I have to accept that I don't have to know or understand everything in the universe and in fact it would be impossible
And my refusal to believe in an omni-powerful god helps me understand the universe better. There might be something out there, I don't know nor care. But I do not think it is omnipotent.
So I just walk back to the beginning. Everything came from something. Nothing is self creating. There is nothing in existence that willed itself into existence from non existence (you can see the logic here)
Then how did God create himself?
Or was he always there?
If he was always there, the universe can *technically* create itself by the same logic.
The only way to break that loop is that God is, well, God.
I see where you're coming from. However, I will have to disagree.
I can see how that would make sense.
Because if there is no God, then you would still have to accept that ultimately the universe created itself
Or, if you believe in God, it means a being, with possibly other beings, created themselves and became perfect represenations of how intelligent conscious being are to act like.
Sorry for typos btw
On my cellphone xD
But how can something self create, basically to make itself exist before it even existed? It would be like you writing a letter before you were even conceived
And it's like producing a child without having sex. The child being God.
The origins of our universe will quite possibly forever be a mystery.
Or else the basis of religion falters and fails, and later the collapse of civilized society.
And the only explanation for existence at all would be a god. Which god, be it Odin vs YHWH or whoever is a different debate
As someone who believes in a one party, authoritarian state, religion is merely a tool for the ruling party to use to control people.
Even the "big bang" does not create matter, it only distributes it. The theory itself came from a priest
Again, it's a mystery.
And I don't like basing my life off of assumptions.
No doubt some religions were made to control. All religions were used that way in one way or another
But if a religion was made by a wise ruler to control the behavior of his subjects and make them do good/refrain from evil, where did he get the idea? What made certain acts good or bad?
Why is homosexuality wrong if kept in private?
Have you ever heard of Immanuel Kant?
Where did he get his ideas morality?
He thought long and hard for himself, just as the lawyers did.
"imagine a world in which everybody did the thing always. would that be a good world? no? then you must never do the thing at all ever"
thonking the big thonk
That's a logical fallacy
Let me explain.
Well
that's kant's categorical imperative
Sorry
I meant you got his imperative wrong*