Message from @GingaBomber

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2018-01-10 08:08:22 UTC  

And Kane used the example of Healthcare

2018-01-10 08:08:37 UTC  

Yeah, I'm not denying that lol. I just think healthcare would be one of those things people wouldn't mind paying a bit extra in taxes for.

2018-01-10 08:08:40 UTC  

was I false?

2018-01-10 08:08:58 UTC  

maybe some but not all

2018-01-10 08:09:02 UTC  

Well, I can see why, but I think most people jsut want to pay less in general.

2018-01-10 08:09:15 UTC  

But thats just me, and it is wrong of me to assume the same of everyone.

2018-01-10 08:09:49 UTC  

And well.. I was also trying to rationalize why people wouldnt be in support of well.. More taxes for healthcare

2018-01-10 08:09:57 UTC  

I doubt there are people out there looking to pay the most for something just to pay more for the same

2018-01-10 08:10:13 UTC  

I guess it would be if I trusted most people to be responsible healthy adults and the people running it to be efficient

2018-01-10 08:10:34 UTC  

then ask yourself, is the government efficient?

2018-01-10 08:10:48 UTC  

Lol, hell no

2018-01-10 08:10:58 UTC  

Well, with very few exceptions

2018-01-10 08:11:04 UTC  

No, of course not lol.

2018-01-10 08:11:05 UTC  

I could name a few I considered efficient

2018-01-10 08:11:07 UTC  

only those that trust the gov want to give their health over to them

2018-01-10 08:11:10 UTC  

But thats only opinion

2018-01-10 08:11:30 UTC  

I am curious, which?

2018-01-10 08:11:43 UTC  

Actually just Singapore, but I am sure they have their issues as well

2018-01-10 08:12:09 UTC  

Problem is, its a very tiny country, with well no notable physical exports.

2018-01-10 08:12:17 UTC  

ah, but that would be because they are much smaller and can micromanage everything

2018-01-10 08:12:23 UTC  

exactly.

2018-01-10 08:12:32 UTC  

I don't like it, but frankly, I do think it would be slightly better than our healthcare system as it is right now.

2018-01-10 08:13:13 UTC  

I mean, I am not american but Ill speak from what I assume would be my perspective if I were one

2018-01-10 08:13:41 UTC  

So, you're in a country that does have it then?

2018-01-10 08:13:42 UTC  

then everyone would be on the same level so the wait times would be very long for simple or complex prosedures

2018-01-10 08:13:47 UTC  

Not at all.

2018-01-10 08:14:09 UTC  

Wait times are a myth.

2018-01-10 08:14:11 UTC  

We pay way less in taxes. But then thats also cause our govt does not do much for us.

2018-01-10 08:14:18 UTC  

They're for elective procedures.

2018-01-10 08:14:28 UTC  

If you need emergency care, you are going to get it.

2018-01-10 08:14:42 UTC  

Is this just the US or something else?

2018-01-10 08:14:51 UTC  

I mean, id like the context here

2018-01-10 08:14:52 UTC  

I was speaking for the US, myself.

2018-01-10 08:14:55 UTC  

Ah fair.

2018-01-10 08:15:13 UTC  

I am pretty sure that the hospital does not put everyone on the same line

2018-01-10 08:15:15 UTC  

well I hope so.

2018-01-10 08:15:23 UTC  

Jaden's hypothetical medical system

2018-01-10 08:15:31 UTC  

for one payer

2018-01-10 08:15:36 UTC  

he didnt say anything about that situation

2018-01-10 08:15:44 UTC  

And its hypothetical if we had one payer.

2018-01-10 08:15:59 UTC  

One thing that contributes to the 'wait time' thing is the fact that so many illegal aliens go to the hospital and take up space in the ER, I think.