I mean he has a point, the US medical system is a farce

And well, we can also lump in alot of unfortunate circumstances, like car accidents or well, accidents in general

https://youtu.be/kahCrnqqhAM Bernie Sanders saying 'Single payer Medicaid would bankrupt nation'

with people who put themselves in said situations

And you don't get cases of someone's insurance turning down their cancer treatment because she had acne as a teenager.

So, arguing against socialized healthcare? I dont see why we are arguing

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What? I was talking about private insurance companies.

Since they're for-profit.

And the discussion started with how leftist policies tend to require more taxes to support

And Kane used the example of Healthcare

Yeah, I'm not denying that lol. I just think healthcare would be one of those things people wouldn't mind paying a bit extra in taxes for.

was I false?

maybe some but not all

Well, I can see why, but I think most people jsut want to pay less in general.

But thats just me, and it is wrong of me to assume the same of everyone.

And well.. I was also trying to rationalize why people wouldnt be in support of well.. More taxes for healthcare

I doubt there are people out there looking to pay the most for something just to pay more for the same

I guess it would be if I trusted most people to be responsible healthy adults and the people running it to be efficient

then ask yourself, is the government efficient?

Lol, hell no

Well, with very few exceptions

No, of course not lol.

I could name a few I considered efficient

only those that trust the gov want to give their health over to them

But thats only opinion

I am curious, which?

Actually just Singapore, but I am sure they have their issues as well

Problem is, its a very tiny country, with well no notable physical exports.

ah, but that would be because they are much smaller and can micromanage everything

exactly.

I don't like it, but frankly, I do think it would be slightly better than our healthcare system as it is right now.

I mean, I am not american but Ill speak from what I assume would be my perspective if I were one

So, you're in a country that does have it then?

then everyone would be on the same level so the wait times would be very long for simple or complex prosedures

Not at all.

Wait times are a myth.

We pay way less in taxes. But then thats also cause our govt does not do much for us.

They're for elective procedures.

If you need emergency care, you are going to get it.

Is this just the US or something else?