Message from @JadenFrostwolf

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2018-01-10 07:57:49 UTC  

To a country thats mostly urbanized under one culture.

2018-01-10 07:57:55 UTC  

Just look up some old Bernie videos before he went communist and he will explain it himself how the one payer medical system would essentially bankrupt America

2018-01-10 07:58:31 UTC  

I'm not quite sure with what homogeneity has to do with anything...?

2018-01-10 07:58:35 UTC  

I mean, dont get me wrong I think its nice to ensure that all of the citizens get healthcare, especially lifesaving or life altering ones like chemo or dentist work.

2018-01-10 07:59:38 UTC  

But the man who lives his life without smoking or drinking will be taxed extra to compensate for the fatass who eats 5 big macs a meal and chugs down Mountain Dew like water.

2018-01-10 08:00:07 UTC  

Why does a welfare system have to exist at all? Why does the government require us to provide charity when it would be more effective to be handled on a one-to-one basis?

2018-01-10 08:00:07 UTC  

That's how health insurance works. The healthy subsidize the sick.

2018-01-10 08:00:24 UTC  

But it does not make it right in their eyes.

2018-01-10 08:00:37 UTC  

At least Health Insurance is an opt in system.

2018-01-10 08:00:44 UTC  

But you cant opt out of taxes.

2018-01-10 08:01:17 UTC  

And that is how you end up paying for everybody being sick is through taxes on a one payer system

2018-01-10 08:02:20 UTC  

i mean, I cant blame anyone for being against giving up more of their income to compensate for another person's mistakes.

2018-01-10 08:02:53 UTC  

We pay for fire service, though.

2018-01-10 08:02:55 UTC  

And police.

2018-01-10 08:03:11 UTC  

through local taxes

2018-01-10 08:03:13 UTC  

Paying for someone else's mistakes when it comes to a fire starting is fine?

2018-01-10 08:03:14 UTC  

not federal

2018-01-10 08:03:22 UTC  

Why does that matter?

2018-01-10 08:03:39 UTC  

a one payer would be another federal tax

2018-01-10 08:04:37 UTC  

You're not having to also then give insurance companies money, though, since your health coverage comes through taxes. It's not like you're paying it through taxes and then also giving medical companies and hospitals boatloads of money.

2018-01-10 08:05:24 UTC  

There's no such thing as being slapped with a medical bill that you have to spend the rest of your life paying off, because you have the audacity to actually get sick or hurt.

2018-01-10 08:05:54 UTC  

I mean he has a point, the US medical system is a farce

2018-01-10 08:06:18 UTC  

And well, we can also lump in alot of unfortunate circumstances, like car accidents or well, accidents in general

2018-01-10 08:06:23 UTC  

https://youtu.be/kahCrnqqhAM Bernie Sanders saying 'Single payer Medicaid would bankrupt nation'

2018-01-10 08:06:27 UTC  

with people who put themselves in said situations

2018-01-10 08:06:31 UTC  

And you don't get cases of someone's insurance turning down their cancer treatment because she had acne as a teenager.

2018-01-10 08:06:58 UTC  

So, arguing against socialized healthcare? I dont see why we are arguing

2018-01-10 08:07:12 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2018-01-10 08:07:39 UTC  

What? I was talking about private insurance companies.

2018-01-10 08:07:54 UTC  

Since they're for-profit.

2018-01-10 08:08:05 UTC  

And the discussion started with how leftist policies tend to require more taxes to support

2018-01-10 08:08:22 UTC  

And Kane used the example of Healthcare

2018-01-10 08:08:37 UTC  

Yeah, I'm not denying that lol. I just think healthcare would be one of those things people wouldn't mind paying a bit extra in taxes for.

2018-01-10 08:08:40 UTC  

was I false?

2018-01-10 08:08:58 UTC  

maybe some but not all

2018-01-10 08:09:02 UTC  

Well, I can see why, but I think most people jsut want to pay less in general.

2018-01-10 08:09:15 UTC  

But thats just me, and it is wrong of me to assume the same of everyone.

2018-01-10 08:09:49 UTC  

And well.. I was also trying to rationalize why people wouldnt be in support of well.. More taxes for healthcare

2018-01-10 08:09:57 UTC  

I doubt there are people out there looking to pay the most for something just to pay more for the same

2018-01-10 08:10:13 UTC  

I guess it would be if I trusted most people to be responsible healthy adults and the people running it to be efficient

2018-01-10 08:10:34 UTC  

then ask yourself, is the government efficient?