The only fact checker I trust is myself also

lol, i bought into too many falsehoods that I dont even know

I used to be supportive of leftist policies until I learnt how they do not work.

The blowback effect is humungous.

Oh many leftist policies will work you just have to pay 200% more taxes

Not to mention Bernie's idea of a one payer medical system. I would hate to see our tax level after that went into effect

How does every other western nation manage to pull it off, then?

Being really homogenous?

Their medical system isn't as good as ours because there isn't any need for competition

Culturally especially

I mean, look at most european countries, most countries are mostly homogenous cuturally and ethnically.

So, you're saying ethnostates work? <:hmkGrin:284219474440355840>

In the US its not as easy to implement a one size fits all basically.

Or comparing a US country with heaps of different demographics financially, culturally, and geographically.

To a country thats mostly urbanized under one culture.

Just look up some old Bernie videos before he went communist and he will explain it himself how the one payer medical system would essentially bankrupt America

I'm not quite sure with what homogeneity has to do with anything...?

I mean, dont get me wrong I think its nice to ensure that all of the citizens get healthcare, especially lifesaving or life altering ones like chemo or dentist work.

But the man who lives his life without smoking or drinking will be taxed extra to compensate for the fatass who eats 5 big macs a meal and chugs down Mountain Dew like water.

Why does a welfare system have to exist at all? Why does the government require us to provide charity when it would be more effective to be handled on a one-to-one basis?

That's how health insurance works. The healthy subsidize the sick.

But it does not make it right in their eyes.

At least Health Insurance is an opt in system.

But you cant opt out of taxes.

And that is how you end up paying for everybody being sick is through taxes on a one payer system

i mean, I cant blame anyone for being against giving up more of their income to compensate for another person's mistakes.

We pay for fire service, though.

And police.

through local taxes

Paying for someone else's mistakes when it comes to a fire starting is fine?

not federal

Why does that matter?

a one payer would be another federal tax

You're not having to also then give insurance companies money, though, since your health coverage comes through taxes. It's not like you're paying it through taxes and then also giving medical companies and hospitals boatloads of money.

There's no such thing as being slapped with a medical bill that you have to spend the rest of your life paying off, because you have the audacity to actually get sick or hurt.

I mean he has a point, the US medical system is a farce

And well, we can also lump in alot of unfortunate circumstances, like car accidents or well, accidents in general

https://youtu.be/kahCrnqqhAM Bernie Sanders saying 'Single payer Medicaid would bankrupt nation'

with people who put themselves in said situations

And you don't get cases of someone's insurance turning down their cancer treatment because she had acne as a teenager.

So, arguing against socialized healthcare? I dont see why we are arguing