Message from @Abel
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Yes you do. If you get the same info from multiple people you can be pretty certain they are not lying. Second, it also depends on what you are told.
If someone knows something, they are going to tell you. It doesn't matter if they lie a hundred times, eventually they will talk.
>same info from multiple people
"Major well known group was behind major well known attack" isn't a hard sell
And again, if you torture someone a hundred times and they *lie* in a different way this is indistinguishable from torturing someone a hundred times and then having them tell the truth
Plus you're also assuming that you have multiple sources for this intel, when that often isn't the case
Remember when the US started a war with Iraq based on like 2 sketchy ass sources?
It's a violation of U.S. law and the Geneva Conventions.
law is ethically irrelevant, it is also practically irrelevant when it isn't enforced
Irrelevant in the case of unjust law?
Not sure what you mean.
If we don't want our own soldiers subjected to that kind of treatment, we shouldn't be okay with doing it to our enemies.
And well, alot of the people who are against torture from my view mainly disagreed with it because it was unreliable. Since Mattis sees it as unreliable I think theres something there.
I agree that it's unreliable. But I'm also not really an "ends justify the means" type of person.
Just saying its usually the most common or their biggest point.
A paniced mind is not a stable one, and bad intel is just as bad if not worse as no intel
The law has no actual necessary connection to justice, nor is it relevant consequentially if nobody ever enforces it
There are plenty of unjust laws, or laws nobody really pays attention to
@GingaBomber Yeah, people can be anti-torture for various reasons. From my perspective, there's something fundamentally wrong with it, regardless of the information gathered.
Eh call it pragmatism.
Personally if I was told that I had to do shit like that for something I really care about, im not gonna lie but Ill be inclined to agree with it.
But im not saying that makes it right.
A pro life woman's picture was used in a pro abortion story
@GingaBomber Part of the human condition - we don't always live up to our ideals.
Until we actually face a given set of circumstances, we're limited to speaking in hypotheticals about our hopes for how we'd respond.
I’m law abiding citizen... most of the time- says the protestor amongst the mob as they vandalize someone’s car.
It doesn’t matter how you act when eyes are on you, it’s how you act when no one is watching
@Matt-Kill723 dunno why you have to show that video, really no point. The only people who still genuinely believe msm do not listen to logic
They are not wrong.... just like saying since God is love and Love is blind, God is Steve Wonder
Action News: Asking the Hard Questions
Are mascots furries?
Yes?
Depends on the mascot?
Is Barny a furrie?
No, Barnie is a scaly.
They're the ones into lizards.
i think hes asking about the suit not the character