Message from @RedOblivion

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2018-11-23 18:11:57 UTC  

i only see this end in conflict

2018-11-23 18:12:02 UTC  

the question is not if

2018-11-23 18:12:11 UTC  

the question is when and what kind of conflict

2018-11-23 18:12:23 UTC  

it could end in disinterest

2018-11-23 18:12:48 UTC  

if the EU fails to deliver
and member states make their own arrangements with foreign powers
it could simply decline

2018-11-23 18:13:12 UTC  

the EU ministers are a joke, and could be made the subject of ridicule

2018-11-23 18:13:28 UTC  

If the EU fails to enforce itself on its "member-states"

2018-11-23 18:13:44 UTC  

it can dissolve into something pointless

2018-11-23 18:13:57 UTC  

but if it manages to get force behind its policies

2018-11-23 18:14:09 UTC  

thats where i think you gonna see a real conflict happening

2018-11-23 18:14:47 UTC  

the whole EU is a joke at this point, a really bad authoritarian joke for that matter

2018-11-23 18:16:02 UTC  

Heil, Europa!

2018-11-23 18:17:48 UTC  

What Germany was unable to accomplish in war, it finally appears to accomplish in peace.

2018-11-23 18:17:57 UTC  

Pax Germanum

2018-11-23 18:20:55 UTC  

Hillary is quite correct on refugees and migration
that really will drive people across europe to vote out the mainstream politicians who support it

2018-11-23 18:21:31 UTC  

it is actually quite interesting, because HRC bears considerable personal responsibility for the refugee crisis in europe now

2018-11-23 18:21:46 UTC  

Libya was the buffer, and everyone knew that - including HRC

2018-11-23 18:22:18 UTC  

so now she's acknowledging what a mess it is,
and that the mess represents an existential threat to the globalist agenda

2018-11-23 18:26:21 UTC  

A small article regarding Verhofstadt and the EU in general

2018-11-23 18:34:18 UTC  

How was Libya the buffer?

2018-11-23 18:41:35 UTC  

> Gaddafi once proudly served as protector to his country's maritime border, promising that, for a sizable compensation from Europe, makeshift loads of human cargo would not suddenly arrive in search of refuge on Italian shores.

2018-11-23 18:41:39 UTC  

HRC killed him

2018-11-23 18:42:38 UTC  

Europe bears responsibility for Libya. France especially. We just helped Europe do dumb shit.

2018-11-23 18:52:09 UTC  

Not merely helped. Enabled. They would not have been able to oust Gaddafi without the US. They ran out of fucking bombs before the US got involved, and didn't have the necessary aerial refueling capability to maintain a strike tempo.

2018-11-23 18:53:17 UTC  

But it was France who wanted it so bad.

2018-11-23 18:57:04 UTC  

At the time of Gaddafi's death France had 14 tanker aircraft. The US had roughly 450.

2018-11-23 18:57:32 UTC  

The US was completely indispensable to the war effort.

2018-11-23 18:57:45 UTC  

Shifting the blame onto the Euros is bullshit.

2018-11-23 19:00:16 UTC  

As per usual, America was critical to any war effort it was involved in.

2018-11-23 19:03:40 UTC  

If France had not been so damn eager, there would have been no Libya intervention

2018-11-23 19:04:06 UTC  

If Hillary Clinton had not been so damn eager, there would have been no Libya intervention.

2018-11-23 19:07:12 UTC  

If France, but not America, no Libyan intervention. If France and America, Libyan intervention. If America, but not France, Libyan intervention.

2018-11-23 19:07:17 UTC  

I fail to see how this is France's fault.

2018-11-23 19:08:56 UTC  

You couldn't have written that worse if you tried

2018-11-23 19:09:26 UTC  

Could so.

2018-11-23 19:13:37 UTC  

The US was not going to perform the intervention. The President was clear on that. No new ground misadventures.

2018-11-23 19:14:50 UTC  

Just a lotta drones apparently

2018-11-23 19:18:32 UTC  

Drones don't have mothers to call when they die, and sweethearts to appear in the paper in their grief

2018-11-23 19:19:52 UTC  

if no Facebook, Libya would not have fallen