Message from @RedOblivion
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i only see this end in conflict
the question is not if
the question is when and what kind of conflict
it could end in disinterest
if the EU fails to deliver
and member states make their own arrangements with foreign powers
it could simply decline
the EU ministers are a joke, and could be made the subject of ridicule
If the EU fails to enforce itself on its "member-states"
it can dissolve into something pointless
but if it manages to get force behind its policies
thats where i think you gonna see a real conflict happening
the whole EU is a joke at this point, a really bad authoritarian joke for that matter
Heil, Europa!
What Germany was unable to accomplish in war, it finally appears to accomplish in peace.
Pax Germanum
Hillary is quite correct on refugees and migration
that really will drive people across europe to vote out the mainstream politicians who support it
it is actually quite interesting, because HRC bears considerable personal responsibility for the refugee crisis in europe now
Libya was the buffer, and everyone knew that - including HRC
so now she's acknowledging what a mess it is,
and that the mess represents an existential threat to the globalist agenda
A small article regarding Verhofstadt and the EU in general
> Gaddafi once proudly served as protector to his country's maritime border, promising that, for a sizable compensation from Europe, makeshift loads of human cargo would not suddenly arrive in search of refuge on Italian shores.
HRC killed him
Europe bears responsibility for Libya. France especially. We just helped Europe do dumb shit.
Not merely helped. Enabled. They would not have been able to oust Gaddafi without the US. They ran out of fucking bombs before the US got involved, and didn't have the necessary aerial refueling capability to maintain a strike tempo.
But it was France who wanted it so bad.
At the time of Gaddafi's death France had 14 tanker aircraft. The US had roughly 450.
The US was completely indispensable to the war effort.
Shifting the blame onto the Euros is bullshit.
As per usual, America was critical to any war effort it was involved in.
If France had not been so damn eager, there would have been no Libya intervention
If Hillary Clinton had not been so damn eager, there would have been no Libya intervention.
If France, but not America, no Libyan intervention. If France and America, Libyan intervention. If America, but not France, Libyan intervention.
I fail to see how this is France's fault.
You couldn't have written that worse if you tried
Could so.
The US was not going to perform the intervention. The President was clear on that. No new ground misadventures.
Just a lotta drones apparently
Drones don't have mothers to call when they die, and sweethearts to appear in the paper in their grief
if no Facebook, Libya would not have fallen