Message from @DrYuriMom

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2018-11-23 18:22:18 UTC  

so now she's acknowledging what a mess it is,
and that the mess represents an existential threat to the globalist agenda

2018-11-23 18:26:21 UTC  

A small article regarding Verhofstadt and the EU in general

2018-11-23 18:34:18 UTC  

How was Libya the buffer?

2018-11-23 18:41:35 UTC  

> Gaddafi once proudly served as protector to his country's maritime border, promising that, for a sizable compensation from Europe, makeshift loads of human cargo would not suddenly arrive in search of refuge on Italian shores.

2018-11-23 18:41:39 UTC  

HRC killed him

2018-11-23 18:42:38 UTC  

Europe bears responsibility for Libya. France especially. We just helped Europe do dumb shit.

2018-11-23 18:52:09 UTC  

Not merely helped. Enabled. They would not have been able to oust Gaddafi without the US. They ran out of fucking bombs before the US got involved, and didn't have the necessary aerial refueling capability to maintain a strike tempo.

2018-11-23 18:53:17 UTC  

But it was France who wanted it so bad.

2018-11-23 18:57:04 UTC  

At the time of Gaddafi's death France had 14 tanker aircraft. The US had roughly 450.

2018-11-23 18:57:32 UTC  

The US was completely indispensable to the war effort.

2018-11-23 18:57:45 UTC  

Shifting the blame onto the Euros is bullshit.

2018-11-23 19:00:16 UTC  

As per usual, America was critical to any war effort it was involved in.

2018-11-23 19:03:40 UTC  

If France had not been so damn eager, there would have been no Libya intervention

2018-11-23 19:04:06 UTC  

If Hillary Clinton had not been so damn eager, there would have been no Libya intervention.

2018-11-23 19:07:12 UTC  

If France, but not America, no Libyan intervention. If France and America, Libyan intervention. If America, but not France, Libyan intervention.

2018-11-23 19:07:17 UTC  

I fail to see how this is France's fault.

2018-11-23 19:08:56 UTC  

You couldn't have written that worse if you tried

2018-11-23 19:09:26 UTC  

Could so.

2018-11-23 19:13:37 UTC  

The US was not going to perform the intervention. The President was clear on that. No new ground misadventures.

2018-11-23 19:14:50 UTC  

Just a lotta drones apparently

2018-11-23 19:18:32 UTC  

Drones don't have mothers to call when they die, and sweethearts to appear in the paper in their grief

2018-11-23 19:19:52 UTC  

if no Facebook, Libya would not have fallen

2018-11-23 19:20:05 UTC  

if no Twitter, Libya would not have fallen

2018-11-23 19:20:17 UTC  

... we can do this all day

2018-11-23 19:21:29 UTC  

They tend to kill people who do though

2018-11-23 19:21:48 UTC  

*including, in at least one case, an American citizen*

2018-11-23 19:27:28 UTC  

Libya was as stupid as Iraq. I'm not going to state otherwise. That said, France was the actor in this case. Would I have preferred the US to have acted like they did in 1956 and told the French and Brits NO like Ike did, oh yes. But it was still France who insisted on doing it. We were just being good allies for people who had been good allies to us in Afghanistan.

2018-11-23 19:29:10 UTC  

Horseshit. France did fuck all in Afghanistan. On a man-to-man basis Canada did more. And we don't owe them a 'Topple One Country Free' card for doing what they were fucking supposed to do under NATO.

2018-11-23 19:29:47 UTC  

You don't have a leg to stand on with Libya and you really ought to stop defending such a complete and utter debacle just because it was done under Obama's watch.

2018-11-23 19:30:39 UTC  

Because one evil cunt wanted to shore up her foreign policy cred prior to a presidential campaign we tore a country to shreds and we might even lose a fucking continent due to the fallout.

2018-11-23 19:30:44 UTC  

I'm not defending it. I'm just pointing out the circumstances of it. Iraq was dumb. Libya was dumb.

2018-11-23 19:30:59 UTC  

Iraq was a family grudge

2018-11-23 19:31:21 UTC  

I'm not defending Iraq. I'm not even defending Afghanistan and I fought there.

2018-11-23 19:31:59 UTC  

So we are in agreement. The US government is imperfect and does dumb things.

2018-11-23 19:32:12 UTC  

Right, then we can all agree that Libya was an international disaster that ruined millions of lives and those who acted to make it happen should be condemned and vilified for their acts.

2018-11-23 19:32:25 UTC  

No we are not in agreement. You think it was France's fault and that we were being 'good allies' by helping them. That's complete horseshit.

2018-11-23 19:32:34 UTC  

Obama's legacy is soaked in the blood and tears of the innocent.

2018-11-23 19:32:37 UTC  

This was the US's fault, specifically Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

2018-11-23 19:32:55 UTC  

Well, Clinton, that goes without saying.