I commend them for that

Right. And to me, neither in theory nor in praxis, feminism was ever about equality. They just introduced the "equality" language when it was politically conveinient.

The vote without the responsibility that came with it

Now we fix that

Without the duty to their nations defense

But that doesn't retroactively change the intent

I will not ascend to this linguistic manipulation, so, sorry, I have to be insistent in rejecting that label for equality.

FIx what?

What rights are women lacking?

@Undead Mockingbird we would equalize or remove SS

Women have more rights than men

Which would equalize that which has been made unequal in another sense

Yes.

But that doesn't change the core issue

The right to be drafted and sent to a sand dune to die

So you want to rescind the right of women to vote now because of the original of it even though women now serve in the military and even have died in active war zones fighting for our country?

I believe Cat meant that we fix that by either removing women's rights or adding to women's responsibilities.

Yes

Wait, what?

Exactly

Equal rights for equal responsibility

I was under the impression that we were discussing Feminism's status as an egalitarian movement

Eliminate the selective service or make women equally responsible to it

I am confused now.

With Suffrage seen as the first issue

Are we talking about feminism or what?

And in which case, feminism was not originally an egalitarian movement

I think it's clear now that feminist movements haven't been egalitarian from the outset.

I thought it was general equality

My point is that feminism was never about equality.

I am saying feminism resulted in many laudable things, but over time we have learned of many errors which need to be corrected.

Like what? Women's suffrage?

That wasn't the topic either

Women's attendance in universities?

No, like the expectation of military service

Ever heard of womansplaining?

How were more privileges a laudable thing when it didn't come with the responsibilities?

I see no down side to women attendance in universities except in regards to quotas and such

My problem with feminism is I actually want someone who is literally just a housewife to
-Teach the kids because I can't stand the idea of putting my kids through a public school
-Take care of the house
And that's pretty much it

We have wreaked absolute havoc on the family and the justice system.

So you want a slave