It would force companies to pay competitive wages, and then we could lower the minimum wage

@Grenade123

But as it stands, lowering the minimum wage wont actually fix anything, and getting rid of it would just cause unnecessary civil unrest

why would it?

it hasn't raised in forever

to get it where it is supposed ot be would be to jump to like 10-15 and hour

its been devaluing itself for a while now

I think you missed my point just a bit

But maybe I explained it poorly?

Minimum wage is primarily a market distortion. It leads to reduced employment. End of story.

And the story continues

It tends to be used as the classic example of how price floors cause a drop in the quantity supplied and lead to worse outcomes.

not to mention, it does not account for things like healthcare or providing for schooling.

Pratel, did you even read what I put before?

Like at all?

i already said min wage doesn't really address the work force issue. but it doesn't help it either.

illegals are already staying under the radar, which makes it easier for companies to hire them illegal

That's why we should punish the companies who hire illegal immigrants first

what illegal is going to dox himself to complain about bad pay

but a legal american?

why should we punish companies for the crimes of the individual?

do we punish the employer of a murder?

The company has committed a crime too

Firstly, illegal worker or not, the company employed someone for less than minimum wage

That in itself is a serious felony

@Cody Yeah. And it's almost entirely wrong.

I do not see how?

Your saying we shouldn't punish someone for hiring a person who can not legally work?

And if so, why?

You are using minimum wage to punish employers for an employees willingness to work for less than min wage

Then we punish them for hiring an illegal immigrant

then lets punish gab for having a murder on their platform

The problem will never go away until the company's themselves stop hiring illegals

they will never stop hiring so long as they are here.

So we must decentivize that

which incentives shipping jobs overseas anyway.

Then we need to secure our borders, then lower minimum wage

And outright abolish it slowly

Grenade, you do not see it as a crime to intentionally hire someone who can not legally work?

There was both intent, and action

By definition it's a crime punishable with our penal code