Message from @Grenade123
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An illegal, would work for the same small amount forever if they could
It would just lead to actual Americans seeing wages fall, and it wouldn't solve the illegal workers problem
The minimum wage was never even the problem to begin with
It was illegal immigrants working for less than minimum wage
We need to punish companies who hire illegal immigrants, and decentivize them in those feilds
It would force companies to pay competitive wages, and then we could lower the minimum wage
But as it stands, lowering the minimum wage wont actually fix anything, and getting rid of it would just cause unnecessary civil unrest
why would it?
it hasn't raised in forever
to get it where it is supposed ot be would be to jump to like 10-15 and hour
its been devaluing itself for a while now
I think you missed my point just a bit
But maybe I explained it poorly?
Minimum wage is primarily a market distortion. It leads to reduced employment. End of story.
And the story continues
It tends to be used as the classic example of how price floors cause a drop in the quantity supplied and lead to worse outcomes.
not to mention, it does not account for things like healthcare or providing for schooling.
Pratel, did you even read what I put before?
Like at all?
illegals are already staying under the radar, which makes it easier for companies to hire them illegal
That's why we should punish the companies who hire illegal immigrants first
what illegal is going to dox himself to complain about bad pay
but a legal american?
why should we punish companies for the crimes of the individual?
do we punish the employer of a murder?
The company has committed a crime too
Firstly, illegal worker or not, the company employed someone for less than minimum wage
That in itself is a serious felony
I do not see how?
Your saying we shouldn't punish someone for hiring a person who can not legally work?
And if so, why?
You are using minimum wage to punish employers for an employees willingness to work for less than min wage
Then we punish them for hiring an illegal immigrant
then lets punish gab for having a murder on their platform
The problem will never go away until the company's themselves stop hiring illegals
they will never stop hiring so long as they are here.
So we must decentivize that
which incentives shipping jobs overseas anyway.