"allowed to operate independently" kinda

"wealth isn't redistributed" arguable

Canadian system is shite tbh. Small business gets fucked daily

@Beemann agreed. Our liberal and conservative parties seem to value large corporations more, one of the few things they have in common

Our social welfare systems are going to fall apart soon too tbh

Government asks more and outputs less every year

@.B It isn't redistributed to the degree that everyone has an equal amount of wealth (except the individual(s) at the top of the system)

no shit

There are higher taxes for wealthier people but that's the case in most countries

nah, if you have kids you don't have to work a day in your life

Wot

yep, that's a thing

Not in Canada lol

we were talking about Europe

not Canada

Those are nation dependent, not EU dependent

If your country is going gulag mode that's not on the EU necessarily

are you out-of-date on this?

EU is forcing welfare

while the conditions are still per-country

welfare is a real thing being pushed by the EU

Link

https://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?langId=en&catId=750

https://www.politico.eu/article/welfare-discourages-work-labor-market-employment-social-rights/

The first link is EU specific, the second is just an example

the new UN bill (being pushed my mostly Europeans) also forces every country that signs it to give free education and health care to illegal migrants

The first one is recommendations. The second is pre-existing

feel free to argue the difference between _being pushed_ and _recommendations_

The former suggests a penalty or lost incentive if you reject the desired behavior. The latter is simply optional with no injunction except negative peer pressure.

nah.. being pushed means incentive for doing so

And no one is forced unless they ratify that expectation as a treaty.

the EU pays money to member states depending on the end to where it goes

Like I said. You lose an incentive if you reject the behavior.

That constitutes being pushed.

For example, in the US is isn't actually illegal for states to permit 14 year olds to drink alcoholic.

they give you money to do what they want you to do. Call it whatever you prefer

But if states don't make it illrgal for those under 21 to drink alcohol they lose all federal highway dollars.

The main payers can't be pushed anyway, since they're the ones paying in. The countries listed in the article already had the policies you describd

You are talking like the EU is the Federal government 😏

They're trying to be

I'm just using a US example