Message from @paradigm

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2018-12-06 19:16:53 UTC  

As social units grow in size, there still must remain a singular unit at the head, directing it.

2018-12-06 19:17:21 UTC  

This force leads the individuals which comprises the unit, but does not draw authority from it, anymore than a father draws authority from his children.

2018-12-06 19:17:25 UTC  

Rousseau, I think, was a fan of democracy.

2018-12-06 19:17:39 UTC  

Kinda

2018-12-06 19:17:57 UTC  

on small scales

2018-12-06 19:19:11 UTC  

> If I must be a slave, I would rather be privately owned than publicly owned
lmao
US citizens pay tax on global income, whether connected to US or not
the only other country that taxes the slaves globally is the Philippines, iirc

2018-12-06 19:19:34 UTC  

there is, indeed, a case to be made that we are publicly owned slaves

2018-12-06 19:19:43 UTC  

Lol

2018-12-06 19:19:51 UTC  

Not the muh wage slave argument

2018-12-06 19:20:32 UTC  

in most cases, the tax liability applies only within a geographic jurisdiction

2018-12-06 19:20:45 UTC  

for US and PH citizens, the liability attaches to the person

2018-12-06 19:20:50 UTC  

yeah, that's a problem

2018-12-06 19:22:22 UTC  

that is not the wage slave argument at all

2018-12-06 19:22:47 UTC  

i wouldnt mind being a slave as long as i got food and a place to sleep its not like thats much different from what some people have nowadays

2018-12-06 19:22:53 UTC  

citizen = serf

2018-12-06 19:23:33 UTC  

No representation without taxation.

2018-12-06 19:23:38 UTC  

perhaps I am not familiar with the wage slave argument

2018-12-06 19:23:45 UTC  

what is it?

2018-12-06 19:23:56 UTC  

its the commie labour theory of value argument

2018-12-06 19:24:08 UTC  

not the libertarian tax is theft argument

2018-12-06 19:24:55 UTC  

oh, right - yeah, this is not the wage slave argument

2018-12-06 19:25:31 UTC  

and it's not really the taxation is theft argument, either
it's more a proof that we are chattel property of the state argument

2018-12-06 19:25:43 UTC  

Except tax doesnt constantly impose force and you can still make chooses of your own will on a far much larger scale

2018-12-06 19:25:50 UTC  

Communism is just a scuffed form of ancapitalism, change my mind

2018-12-06 19:26:08 UTC  

Which is just tax is theft, taken to its edgyest extreme.

2018-12-06 19:26:12 UTC  

tax only employs force when necessary
when seizing property to auction, for example

2018-12-06 19:26:19 UTC  

Tax is theft yeah

2018-12-06 19:27:30 UTC  

Tbf if you've seen all the horsecrap the government spends on Id agree with the radical libertarians who want to abolish taxes

2018-12-06 19:27:49 UTC  

@paradigm If I mug someone it doesnt make them my property

2018-12-06 19:27:55 UTC  

Same with taxation

2018-12-06 19:28:01 UTC  

I find it deeply troubling that we tax income rather than consumption

2018-12-06 19:28:25 UTC  

Involuntary tax should demolished

2018-12-06 19:28:36 UTC  

@Existence is identity if the results of your labor are my property, do I not have an ownership interest in you?

2018-12-06 19:29:00 UTC  

we have voluntary tax - it says so in the name of the act

2018-12-06 19:29:01 UTC  

heh

2018-12-06 19:29:05 UTC  

Except I have a choose in other things besides that

2018-12-06 19:29:17 UTC  

I can choose how to earn it and what I eat

2018-12-06 19:29:34 UTC  

ok - so I only have a 40% stake

2018-12-06 19:29:40 UTC  

but that's still quite a lot

2018-12-06 19:29:52 UTC  

Yeah its wrong but im a slave

2018-12-06 19:30:07 UTC  

The government is a looter that is comparable to a gang