Message from @paradigm

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2018-12-06 19:22:22 UTC  

that is not the wage slave argument at all

2018-12-06 19:22:47 UTC  

i wouldnt mind being a slave as long as i got food and a place to sleep its not like thats much different from what some people have nowadays

2018-12-06 19:22:53 UTC  

citizen = serf

2018-12-06 19:23:33 UTC  

No representation without taxation.

2018-12-06 19:23:38 UTC  

perhaps I am not familiar with the wage slave argument

2018-12-06 19:23:45 UTC  

what is it?

2018-12-06 19:23:56 UTC  

its the commie labour theory of value argument

2018-12-06 19:24:08 UTC  

not the libertarian tax is theft argument

2018-12-06 19:24:55 UTC  

oh, right - yeah, this is not the wage slave argument

2018-12-06 19:25:31 UTC  

and it's not really the taxation is theft argument, either
it's more a proof that we are chattel property of the state argument

2018-12-06 19:25:43 UTC  

Except tax doesnt constantly impose force and you can still make chooses of your own will on a far much larger scale

2018-12-06 19:25:50 UTC  

Communism is just a scuffed form of ancapitalism, change my mind

2018-12-06 19:26:08 UTC  

Which is just tax is theft, taken to its edgyest extreme.

2018-12-06 19:26:12 UTC  

tax only employs force when necessary
when seizing property to auction, for example

2018-12-06 19:26:19 UTC  

Tax is theft yeah

2018-12-06 19:27:30 UTC  

Tbf if you've seen all the horsecrap the government spends on Id agree with the radical libertarians who want to abolish taxes

2018-12-06 19:27:49 UTC  

@paradigm If I mug someone it doesnt make them my property

2018-12-06 19:27:55 UTC  

Same with taxation

2018-12-06 19:28:01 UTC  

I find it deeply troubling that we tax income rather than consumption

2018-12-06 19:28:25 UTC  

Involuntary tax should demolished

2018-12-06 19:28:36 UTC  

@Existence is identity if the results of your labor are my property, do I not have an ownership interest in you?

2018-12-06 19:29:00 UTC  

we have voluntary tax - it says so in the name of the act

2018-12-06 19:29:01 UTC  

heh

2018-12-06 19:29:05 UTC  

Except I have a choose in other things besides that

2018-12-06 19:29:17 UTC  

I can choose how to earn it and what I eat

2018-12-06 19:29:34 UTC  

ok - so I only have a 40% stake

2018-12-06 19:29:40 UTC  

but that's still quite a lot

2018-12-06 19:29:52 UTC  

Yeah its wrong but im a slave

2018-12-06 19:30:07 UTC  

The government is a looter that is comparable to a gang

2018-12-06 19:30:50 UTC  

It'll probably be a better investment to give money to a mafia

2018-12-06 19:31:08 UTC  

I guess we should define what is the standard for something to be considered a slave

2018-12-06 19:31:09 UTC  

More local, no legal crap

2018-12-06 19:53:31 UTC  

If you can choose between the mafia and the state for protection, you have a free market in government, and you're halfway to ancapistan.

2018-12-06 19:59:40 UTC  

Tbf people already do that. Isnt legal ofcourse

2018-12-06 20:00:38 UTC  

But if people have to do that then there must be flaws in the state that they need fixed, so they fix it with their money

2018-12-06 20:17:20 UTC  

The flaw in the state is it's existence.

2018-12-06 21:28:08 UTC  

until someone has a working replacement, the state will remain necessary

2018-12-06 21:28:30 UTC  

and when there is a working replacement.... it will probably look quite a lot like a state

2018-12-06 22:18:44 UTC  

Do you guys think they will riot in Paris this weekend?

2018-12-06 22:20:05 UTC  

Psure our French chads are already organizing for that

2018-12-06 22:22:20 UTC  

o man