Message from @Yuukimaru

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2019-01-10 14:20:58 UTC  

thats their idea anyway

2019-01-10 14:21:15 UTC  

like image a 15 dollar toll every 2 feet, that is what they see.

2019-01-10 14:21:55 UTC  

also you could be barred from using the roads (no different than revoking you drivers license really)

2019-01-10 15:35:00 UTC  
2019-01-10 18:59:08 UTC  

tfw disembodied cyborg head watching VR of roads

2019-01-10 20:17:45 UTC  

Toll roads a great in theory until you have to drive on one.

2019-01-10 20:17:52 UTC  

They're a pain in the ass.

2019-01-10 20:18:23 UTC  

$2 each way every time I wanted to go to fucking target.

2019-01-10 21:14:31 UTC  

o is that the actual discussion?

2019-01-10 21:14:39 UTC  

toll roads are assinine

2019-01-10 21:15:22 UTC  

there are a few things you should try to keep free to average citizen as possible, and if that means paying taxes for better roads then thats one of them

2019-01-10 21:16:41 UTC  

i mean you can look at state of american healthcare in both its ups and downs as a analogy. surely some private roads would be the best roads in the world but if majority of people can't afford to use them its a even more dire circumstance economically then what happens when people can't pay for medicine

2019-01-10 21:17:08 UTC  

if you can't easily commute you're basically slapping commerce in the face

2019-01-10 21:29:29 UTC  

Private toll roads would be horrible. We would get shit like we see on Twitter where people are banned from parts of the road because the property owner doesn't like their politics. Or because they hate the sports team and want to block them from making it to the game.

And gov run toll roads only work if the system is fully automated. No workers. No stopping. No bullshit looking for $0.50 or paying for it with your CC every fucking time you enter or leave. So basically, just the Texas Tollway system. Get a bill in the mail or an automated CC charge. This is 2019. Get with the fucking times you shitty New York unions.

2019-01-10 21:35:18 UTC  

wouldn't it make more sense to charge people based on the miles they drove on the road

2019-01-10 21:44:31 UTC  

And would those miles be counted by offline machine (meaning that it can be hacked and have numbers manually reduced) or would you have government track your car's location 24/7?

2019-01-10 21:44:58 UTC  

neither

2019-01-10 21:45:16 UTC  

use the fuel

2019-01-10 21:45:21 UTC  

not exact

2019-01-10 21:45:54 UTC  

just use the average mpg of the most comment vehicles

2019-01-10 21:45:58 UTC  

What fuel?
Different cars use different fuels

2019-01-10 21:46:02 UTC  

all of them

2019-01-10 21:46:18 UTC  

You know some cars run partly on solar panels, right?

2019-01-10 21:46:22 UTC  

cars need fuel, you put fueling stations alone roads

2019-01-10 21:46:28 UTC  

not yet they can't

2019-01-10 21:46:40 UTC  

and they don't work at night

2019-01-10 21:46:48 UTC  

I said partly...

2019-01-10 21:47:02 UTC  

yes, and i said use the average

2019-01-10 21:47:23 UTC  

more fuel efficient, more cost you put on the fuel to fix the roads.

2019-01-10 21:47:39 UTC  

for government its a tax, for private roads they just own the fuel stations

2019-01-10 21:48:29 UTC  

not perfect but nothing is

2019-01-10 21:50:58 UTC  

I think it's unsustainable, because it would exponentially drive people towards different ways of powering their car

2019-01-10 21:51:18 UTC  

how so? the roads are paid for one way or another

2019-01-10 21:51:44 UTC  

Well for example buy homecharger for new model of your electric car

2019-01-10 21:51:44 UTC  

this money isn't coming out of anywhere really new

2019-01-10 21:52:16 UTC  

most can't get very far. but if its the state then you tax their homecharger

2019-01-10 21:52:24 UTC  

for private roads well then they would need to put up tolls

2019-01-10 21:53:20 UTC  

they replaced tolls in my state with gas tax because of a horrible accident at a toll booth

2019-01-10 21:53:38 UTC  

obviously this was before the current high speed cashless systems

2019-01-10 21:54:02 UTC  

also they are trying to put back in tolls without removing the gas tax because they need to "repair the roads"

2019-01-10 21:54:15 UTC  

something they only need to do because they raided the gas tax fund