You know some cars run partly on solar panels, right?

cars need fuel, you put fueling stations alone roads

not yet they can't

and they don't work at night

I said partly...

yes, and i said use the average

more fuel efficient, more cost you put on the fuel to fix the roads.

for government its a tax, for private roads they just own the fuel stations

not perfect but nothing is

I think it's unsustainable, because it would exponentially drive people towards different ways of powering their car

how so? the roads are paid for one way or another

Well for example buy homecharger for new model of your electric car

this money isn't coming out of anywhere really new

most can't get very far. but if its the state then you tax their homecharger

for private roads well then they would need to put up tolls

they replaced tolls in my state with gas tax because of a horrible accident at a toll booth

obviously this was before the current high speed cashless systems

also they are trying to put back in tolls without removing the gas tax because they need to "repair the roads"

something they only need to do because they raided the gas tax fund

I think we can all agree road tolls are dumb

It just makes traveling roads slower, and goal is (or should be for sane people) to make it so people spend less time in traffic

alternatively, if people are going electric, you can put a tax on electrical usage, for the private sector well, they need to get money somehow, tolls are the most logical, or they need to bar EC vehicles that can be charged at home. Although EC still has to come a ways to have the needed range

less time in traffic means either less vehicles or more road

more road has a space issue, less vehicles has a logistics issue

Elon is trying to go the more road route by decreasing tunnel building cost

No, I just said that tolls are causing more time in traffic

public transport is expensive out of high destiny areas, part of the reason it doesn't work well in the US compared to Europe.

But Ill stop talking to you here, since I dislike talking past each other

cashless ones don't

new toll for the bridge i cross to go visit my parents doesn't require an electronic tag or slowing down at all

I'm down for credit based Tolls...

based on weight

but that causes a different question: are high volume roads more expensive per vehicle or less?

more vehicle is more wear, but less other things like cleaning and snow removal

its not just the amount of vehicles but also the weight.

racist

1000 1t cars might be fine, but 3 40t Lorrys might cause more damage than the cars

@Wulfolme I'm born Nazi, so don't care if you call me the R Word 😛

you're supposed to say 'How is that racist?' so I can reply "I don't know"

You are supposed to reply to 'How is that racist?' with angry NPC face meme 😄

I'd heard that they actually go out of their way to counteract people fucking with their odometer