I think we can all agree road tolls are dumb

It just makes traveling roads slower, and goal is (or should be for sane people) to make it so people spend less time in traffic

alternatively, if people are going electric, you can put a tax on electrical usage, for the private sector well, they need to get money somehow, tolls are the most logical, or they need to bar EC vehicles that can be charged at home. Although EC still has to come a ways to have the needed range

less time in traffic means either less vehicles or more road

more road has a space issue, less vehicles has a logistics issue

Elon is trying to go the more road route by decreasing tunnel building cost

No, I just said that tolls are causing more time in traffic

public transport is expensive out of high destiny areas, part of the reason it doesn't work well in the US compared to Europe.

But Ill stop talking to you here, since I dislike talking past each other

cashless ones don't

new toll for the bridge i cross to go visit my parents doesn't require an electronic tag or slowing down at all

I'm down for credit based Tolls...

based on weight

but that causes a different question: are high volume roads more expensive per vehicle or less?

more vehicle is more wear, but less other things like cleaning and snow removal

its not just the amount of vehicles but also the weight.

racist

1000 1t cars might be fine, but 3 40t Lorrys might cause more damage than the cars

@Wulfolme I'm born Nazi, so don't care if you call me the R Word 😛

you're supposed to say 'How is that racist?' so I can reply "I don't know"

You are supposed to reply to 'How is that racist?' with angry NPC face meme 😄

I'd heard that they actually go out of their way to counteract people fucking with their odometer

Where they use a list of strings and a checksum in some vehicles

What do y’all think is going to happen in South Africa

Seems like the white South Africans don’t intend to let go of their land without a fight

in a good world, the US and Europe would intervene and tell them to piss off and if they do it, our Tanks will roll on their land.

although what payne says would be fun

i think realistically its a better place to prove intersectionality is cancer by letting it unfold, and i'm rarely one of those "let it all crumble" nihilistic ppl. Likewise i can't see it going any other way, fairly sure thats just what is going to happen

I wouldn’t be surprised if South Africa split up

Like into the separate ethnic groups, languages, etc.

im going to say something that might sound gay or something but

if you are a victim of cause it does seem like you have to give your piece, bet let it wash over you. MLK style

I generally think we are facing the inevitable global economic collapse

We have been trying to make an economy based on money that isn’t worth anything and continuing economic growth by trading debt for too long, and the house of cards is going to fall

this wasn't always the case but i think in 20th cent onward it is. Throwing UN tanks into south africa for some dumb white farmers (god bless there heart, but seriously far from that big of a issue on a world scale) would just reinforce all the South Africans opinions about how right their commie intersectional ways are.

@Emperor of USA yeah the debt thing is terrifying

if i had a beef with a lot of neo-conservatives its that, they seemed to stop actually caring about debt, they just want money so it can go a different place then the dems

With the general collapse of society in the third world, the growing instability in Europe, China’s declining economy, America’s increasing bipolar culture is going to lead to a end of civilization at a scale of Roman proportions

yeah but we say this as overall, a lot of objective things are increasingly becoming better in 1st and 2nd world

not denying a collapse but

I wonder if the end will include nukes