Message from @Vril-Gesellschaft

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2019-02-14 18:10:07 UTC  

Thus you break the dialectical tension between state - citizen

2019-02-14 18:10:32 UTC  

Isn’t that begging the question of why we would need a government.
They’re all over the place.

2019-02-14 18:10:40 UTC  

yes, fiat economy fags will call deflation a bad thing especially if done quickly, this is because their worthless system is based on interest rate expectations from central banks

2019-02-14 18:11:15 UTC  

@Rusty we need a govt because without it plutocrats grab power via market forces without regulation

2019-02-14 18:11:28 UTC  

in order to have strong laws you need the sword if you will to cut heads when people defy the order

2019-02-14 18:12:06 UTC  

so, i have something else to say, but on the note above, i think this would be interesting to look into:

https://pro.paradigmletters.org/p/awn_sdrblockchainv2_0418/LAWNV213/?rm=1&h=true

It's essentially an ad, but the conspiracy theory behind it makes sense to me at least.

2019-02-14 18:12:09 UTC  

How would a piece of paper bind the government to anything if you give it the power to do what you want it to do?

2019-02-14 18:12:45 UTC  

Because if you define the state as race, everyone becomes the govt. Thus the state doesn't react with hostility to the subject.

2019-02-14 18:13:01 UTC  

Everyone effectively becomes some aspect of the govt. A quasi nationalization while retaining property rights.

2019-02-14 18:13:17 UTC  

That is fucking retarded.

2019-02-14 18:13:28 UTC  

why

2019-02-14 18:13:40 UTC  

It's a legal definition dude, it doesn't mean literally everyone is a govt worker

2019-02-14 18:14:00 UTC  

ultimately, creating 'races' in the first place was a mistake.

2019-02-14 18:14:02 UTC  

if your society is built upon volkish principle and the ascendancy principle of race, you can't get away with tyranny

2019-02-14 18:14:13 UTC  

If you define the state as a race, is it anarchist, or is there a state?

2019-02-14 18:14:15 UTC  

in the long run, we'd be a better species if we just got rid of the classification

2019-02-14 18:14:16 UTC  

also I would retain second amendment type rights, as one would need the measn to kill any tyrant

2019-02-14 18:14:51 UTC  

@Aero nonsense, focusing and specialization is how you get ahead in the world, amassing the world's genetic garbage into one nation creates a shithole like Brazil

2019-02-14 18:15:06 UTC  

Also I find the speciation of races as "humanity" tenuous at best given genetic variation

2019-02-14 18:15:21 UTC  

You can't do what you want to do if you let the people keep their guns.

2019-02-14 18:15:28 UTC  

indeed, which is another failsafe

2019-02-14 18:15:37 UTC  

>implying brazil is garbage because of its genetic makeup instead of the travesty that was the toppling of the monarchy

2019-02-14 18:15:58 UTC  

toppling of monarchy was part of it, allowing millions of low tier people to live there contributed more

2019-02-14 18:16:17 UTC  

States can't implement eugenics, only dysgenics.

2019-02-14 18:16:29 UTC  

incorrect, eugenics can be implemented, and in relatively non invasive ways

2019-02-14 18:16:46 UTC  

you don't need to gas the defectives, that doesn't even work due to gene drift in mean reversion

2019-02-14 18:17:03 UTC  

capitalism and liberal ideals are dysgenic though

2019-02-14 18:17:36 UTC  

Capitalism is peak eugenics.

2019-02-14 18:17:41 UTC  

wrong

2019-02-14 18:18:02 UTC  

while i admit, i LOLed at that... i still don't think we really have enough research to prove that eugenics is really a thing.

i'm all for children all growing up in a loving environment which encourages education and hard work. If we study multiple 'races' with these same environments, we'd have better data.

2019-02-14 18:18:07 UTC  

It encourages genetic defectives who are immoral to gain more money. People who are evil who break or bend laws and cut corners manage to grab more wealth.

2019-02-14 18:18:24 UTC  

@Aero homogeneity is non negotiable

2019-02-14 18:18:45 UTC  

being 'evil' is subjective and changes with the times.

2019-02-14 18:19:07 UTC  

subjectivity doesn't exist, what exists is a gradation of understanding of truth

2019-02-14 18:19:26 UTC  

? O.o truth changes from person to person. facts do not

2019-02-14 18:19:28 UTC  

to state universally all things are subjective perception is invoking a transcendental in universal truth

2019-02-14 18:19:37 UTC  

You're off your rocker mate.

2019-02-14 18:19:40 UTC  

for example if I say "there is no truth" that is a truth claim

2019-02-14 18:19:54 UTC  

no I am just smarter than you, so you are confused

2019-02-14 18:20:01 UTC  

Value is subjective, bruh.

2019-02-14 18:20:21 UTC  

wrong, value in economics I would say is based on something tangible and real, production as a process